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Brewers get exemption from allergy label rules

Post by mr x » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:33 am

The beer-makers argue some of the smaller breweries have spent millions of dollars on painted bottles that would have to be replaced if they must be updated to include an ingredients list. They also say every beer drinker knows what is in beer.
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Post by akr71 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:22 am

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They also say every beer drinker knows what is in beer.
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I know, I know - its bikini clad women, shitloads of charisma, sex-appeal and fizzy bubbles! Did I get it right? :P Moslon/Labatts just doesn't want to put "water, corn and a single hop cone" on their packaging.

My step-mom loves beer, but goes near anyphalactic if she drinks it for the past 20 years. One doctor says its hops, one says its the yeast. Given that wine gives her problems at certain times of year, I would guess the yeast, but I'm no doctor.

As I parent with a child who has a peanut allergy, I have absolutely no problem with more and better labeling on anything that is meant to be ingested.
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Re: Brewers get exemption from allergy label rules

Post by mr x » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:32 am

Just who are these 'smaller' breweries who will be so harmed... :roll:
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Post by ratchet » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:38 am

you know... the small ones...
labatts
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Post by derek » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:33 am

akr71 wrote:
mr x wrote:
They also say every beer drinker knows what is in beer.
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I know, I know - its bikini clad women, shitloads of charisma, sex-appeal and fizzy bubbles! Did I get it right? :P Moslon/Labatts just doesn't want to put "water, corn and a single hop cone" on their packaging.

My step-mom loves beer, but goes near anyphalactic if she drinks it for the past 20 years. One doctor says its hops, one says its the yeast. Given that wine gives her problems at certain times of year, I would guess the yeast, but I'm no doctor.

As I parent with a child who has a peanut allergy, I have absolutely no problem with more and better labeling on anything that is meant to be ingested.
I know what's in _beer_. I'm just not sure what's in the stuff the big breweries sell. That's really laughable. The brewnosers could take a reasonable guess at the contents of an unknown beer, but I'm sure the vast majority of beer drinkers don't even know that their regular beer contains corn or rice (or probably barley for that matter).

If you want to experiment on your step-mom, I'm sure we could brew her some hop-free beer. It certainly could be the hops - even a Bud should have enough hop to trigger an allergy. I would have thought that a yeast allergy would affect you no matter what time of year you were drinking wine or beer.

I have "no problem" with better labelling for allergens, but a product meant to be consumed only by adults is a little different than "may contain nuts" on a bag of cookies. Still, whether it's really micro-breweries or the big guys who complain about the cost of replacing painted bottles - that's the risk they knew they were taking when they started using them. There's _always_ the possibility that labelling regulations may change, and they're gambling that the marketing advantage of the unique bottle will be worth more than all of the extra costs - including regulation changes.
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Post by akr71 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:56 am

derek wrote:If you want to experiment on your step-mom, I'm sure we could brew her some hop-free beer. It certainly could be the hops - even a Bud should have enough hop to trigger an allergy. I would have thought that a yeast allergy would affect you no matter what time of year you were drinking wine or beer.

I have "no problem" with better labelling for allergens, but a product meant to be consumed only by adults is a little different than "may contain nuts" on a bag of cookies. Still, whether it's really micro-breweries or the big guys who complain about the cost of replacing painted bottles - that's the risk they knew they were taking when they started using them. There's _always_ the possibility that labelling regulations may change, and they're gambling that the marketing advantage of the unique bottle will be worth more than all of the extra costs - including regulation changes.
I whole heartedly agree about the painted bottles. They've already willingly taken on the added cost of non-standard bottles.

I've offered to make my step-mom a scotch ale with heather and she was quite intregued. She's in Ontario, so I'm not in a hurry, since transportation is an issue. Her doctor believes that its tannins that cause her problems with wine... I should send her a bottle of mead and see how things go.
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Re: Brewers get exemption from allergy label rules

Post by mr x » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:34 pm

Not to mention, those painted bottles don't last forever. Not even close. The new labels can easily be phased in with new orders.
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Post by derek » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:53 pm

Or just add a small label with the required allergen info - it's common enough to see that sort of thing on imported painted bottles.
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Re: Brewers get exemption from allergy label rules

Post by mr x » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:58 pm

Yup.
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Post by BobbyOK » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:51 pm

Any brewery that would have to spend millions to do anything isn't small. The big brewers have totally used that language to pin this on the small guys when only one Canadian brewer (that I'm aware of anyway) has painted bottles - Steamwhistle. Who isn't that small anymore.

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Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:07 am

mill street has painted bottles too. i got about a hundred i use for bottling.. painted labels are nice
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Re: Brewers get exemption from allergy label rules

Post by BobbyOK » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:05 am

CorneliusAlphonse wrote:mill street has painted bottles too. i got about a hundred i use for bottling.. painted labels are nice
Forgot about them - but they're another one that isn't that small anymore. They're basically cross country now and if they can afford to advertise during the Olympics they can afford to change their bottles. I also forgot that Unibroue does some painted bottles too, and Great Lakes possibly still does for their seasonals.

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Re: Brewers get exemption from allergy label rules

Post by mr x » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:40 pm

Moosehead used to use painted bottles at one time. Don't remember if they ditched them.
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