Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by benwedge » Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:58 pm

LiverDance wrote:I wouldn't call what is on that recipe "substantial literary expression in the form of an explanation or directions" but maybe if you got the right lawyer. Maybe that's why some of it is scratched out, would that change a lawyers view on it?
It's definitely hard to say, I'm not a lawyer. Depending on the policies of the website they could perhaps they could argue they are a type of cookbook, which is also covered. Either way there's no way Keith's can stand by it, but I suppose they will.
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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by Jmac00 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:24 pm

My lack of time and being absent from the board, i see that i've missed quite a bit here :lol: :lol: .......nice work Chris :cheers:

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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by KMcK » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:54 pm

Maybe, according to your source, if they just listed the ingredients. I tend to get legal information from Canadian sources, not American, so I'm not yet convinced.

As for the supposed author, I was assuming for sake of argument that the stated name was indeed the actual author. I don't see any point in challenging that for sake of this discussion.
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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by Tim Gregory » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:51 pm

I'm no expert but my opinion on what "substantial literary expression in the form of an explanation or directions" means its not necessarily the methods and techniques that are copyrightable, it's your wording or phrasing. So if you've written a recipe book and someone copies it word for word including all of your artistic flair and anecdotes, etc, that would be infringement. If someone just takes your recipes and rewords the instructions etc. than its probably not.

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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by KMcK » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:17 pm

Yes, Tim, for a non-expert you've given a reasonable interpretation of I.P. law. (I'm not an expert either but I did work in an I.P. office for a few years so I do know a thing or two about the matter). Had Mr. Swedburg used the same hand drawn hops and crossed out the same words as in the ad the Keith's folks would be in real trouble.
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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by PEIBeerGuy » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:36 pm

Just finally read the article.

My favourite part:

"...we would never share Alexander Keith’s original recipe. We use that recipe to make beer..."

Where can I get said beer?
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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by sleepyjamie » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:04 pm

Why are they so worried about others knowing the recipe?

Maybe so their customers will realize just how shitty it is .



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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by LeafMan66_67 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:09 pm

Looks like the commercial has been changed ... the recipe is no longer shown.
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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by derek » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:34 pm

KMcK wrote:Yes, Tim, for a non-expert you've given a reasonable interpretation of I.P. law. (I'm not an expert either but I did work in an I.P. office for a few years so I do know a thing or two about the matter). Had Mr. Swedburg used the same hand drawn hops and crossed out the same words as in the ad the Keith's folks would be in real trouble.
While I agree they probably haven't done anything legally wrong, if the media catches onto the fact that they borrowed somebody else's recipe and claimed it was AK's original, they're in real trouble anyway.
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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by chalmers » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:23 pm

LeafMan66_67 wrote:Looks like the commercial has been changed ... the recipe is no longer shown.
I saw that too. I can die tomorrow feeling like I've accomplished something in my life.

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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by LeafMan66_67 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:41 pm

chalmers wrote:
LeafMan66_67 wrote:Looks like the commercial has been changed ... the recipe is no longer shown.
I saw that too. I can die tomorrow feeling like I've accomplished something in my life.
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Re: Alexander Keith's Ad Reveals Their Recipe!

Post by canuck » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:01 pm

chalmers wrote:
LeafMan66_67 wrote:Looks like the commercial has been changed ... the recipe is no longer shown.
I saw that too. I can die tomorrow feeling like I've accomplished something in my life.
Well done Chris!

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