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benwedge wrote:They tend to take issue with animals being harmed.

What they mean is politically correct animals. I can guarantee that boiling grain and hops is killing lots of smaller creatures that are easy to ignore.

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mr x wrote:

benwedge wrote:They tend to take issue with animals being harmed.

What they mean is politically correct animals. I can guarantee that boiling grain and hops is killing lots of smaller creatures that are easy to ignore.

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The cuddlier they are, the more likely they are to raise the ire of PETA. Seals, e.g.

They only really worry about the cute animals, that taste great cooked...

benwedge wrote: They tend to take issue with animals being harmed. They don't care if it's a by-product. (See also: leather.)

I'm going to continue simply not filtering my beer. It's been treating me well so far.

I could never be a vegan. If animals being harmed is the issue, most industrial agricultral would be off limits as well. Acres and acres of rain forest are being destroyed to plant more soy - what about all the many animals that are displaced/killed in the creation of those fields? Haha sorry - I digress. I've had some many arguments with friends against being vegan in the past. Reminds me of this Simpsons clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFBeeBSIH5Q

Back on topic - I also do not filter my beer (anymore). I like fining though as it gets my beer essentially just as clear without nearly as much hassle or risk.

I take delight in killing a mosquito, but I couldn’t set foot in a slaughter house. I don’t mind too much catching a fish and eating it.

The fact that I eat meat, but wouldn’t go into a slaughter house doesn’t make sense, but you can’t persuade me otherwise, no matter how rational the argument might be.

I couldn’t eat a horse, or a goat.

That’s all pretty f’d up.

Vegetarian or meat eater…neither is the product of rational argument.

It's a bit like discussing religion. Like home brewing, you can do what you want to, and no one needs to be on the attack, or on the defense.

Not much food wise I wont try. I haven't had horse but I haven't been offered it either.

Sandy

Horses are delicious, foal tenderloins are awesome. Almost all animals are delicious if prepared properly, only animals that I've tried and did not particularly like was fried crickets, and boiled fulmar. The crickets were a bit too crunchy, and their insides were a bit rancid. The fulmar was like a dark chicken boiled in fish oil.

As for gelatin and vegetarians, I think it depends on the person, asked a vegetarian friend of mine and he had no problems with it.

gm- wrote:asked a vegetarian friend of mine and he had no problems with it.

Was he scared you might eat him when he said that.

benwedge wrote: The cuddlier they are, the more likely they are to raise the ire of PETA. Seals, e.g.

Fuck PETA, and the horse they rode in on, and while I am at it, McCarthy and the french whore whose name shall never pass my lips.

I hope the Russkies fry those pirates they caught this week from Green peace also.

Now on a more civil note, there isn't much I won't try in the meat dept. and I hope in a few weeks I'll be up to my armpits in moose blood.

Gm-, I had heard so much about Icelandic horse that I was excited to try it. But the one place I saw it, it was $50 a plate, so I took a pass. A different place, I'm sure you've heard of, and maybe visited, the Sushi restaurant in Reykjavik that serves house sashimi? I couldn't convince EZ to head there with me, though. Didn't get to have my underwater boiled guillemot eggs either (my scuba dive to Strytan was called off due to bad weather).

I've had donkey meat in China, where they call it the king of meat. I found it not very tasty but I did enjoy fried silkworms.

Araxi wrote:I've had donkey meat in China, where they call it the king of meat. I found it not very tasty but I did enjoy fried silkworms.

Has anyone eaten dog when they were in China? Or did you draw the line?

Everyone must have a line....don't they?

People have their lines in different places...that's all.

Jews and Muslims won't eat pork. The cow is sacred to Hindus.

if meat's murder, then I'm a mutha fukkin psychopath!!!

GuingesRock wrote:

Araxi wrote:I've had donkey meat in China, where they call it the king of meat. I found it not very tasty but I did enjoy fried silkworms.

Has anyone eaten dog when they were in China? Or did you draw the line?

Everyone must have a line....don't they?

People have their lines in different places...that's all.

Jews and Muslims won't eat pork. The cow is sacred to Hindus.

A lot of research tends to say that it was likely an economical and territorial reason for it rather than a religious, not to say that religions didnt play a part, but the religious beliefs likely followed the lead of socio and economic ideas.

a couple of really good articles about jews and pigs "the abominable pig" by Marvin Harris and "Deciphering a Meal" by Mary Douglas. Diverging ideas but similar outputs.


Also I think its korea where dog is most commonly refered to being eaten.

Oultens sells some meat that's a bit outside the norm. I've tried goat, emu, bison, and llama.


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I miss the goat stew (wat) from the now-closed Ethiopian joint on Quinpool. So tasty!

Im a huge fan of goat roti, theres a place in ottawa that makes it and I make a point to eat there everytime I go back.

benwedge wrote:The cuddlier they are, the more likely they are to raise the ire of PETA. Seals, e.g.

A wild seal isn't cuddly at all, they're pretty vicious.

I love seal meat personally, and I have no moral issues eating it. Seals are pretty much as free range as you can get, and seal hunters use as much of the animal as possible - pelts for clothing, meat for eats, hell they even sell seal penii to japan. If you ask me, seals have a better life than pretty much every animal that's raised for slaughter.

dexter wrote:Im a huge fan of goat roti, theres a place in ottawa that makes it and I make a point to eat there everytime I go back.

There's a Jamaican lady at the seaport market that sells Jamaican food, she's got curried goat on the menu every now and then, highly recommended. Also, Blois Family Farm at the market usually has some form of goat meat in their cooler if you want to have a go at making it yourself.

gmarsh wrote: There's a Jamaican lady at the seaport market that sells Jamaican food, she's got curried goat on the menu every now and then, highly recommended. Also, Blois Family Farm at the market usually has some form of goat meat in their cooler if you want to have a go at making it yourself.

Yeah I've had hers it isn't bad at all. I've bought it several times and like really good food of almost any ethnicity it's hard to make it exactly the same.

If it's the same lady I'm thinking of, best jamacian beef patties I've ever had! Not that I've had that many though.... Haha


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gmarsh wrote:

benwedge wrote:The cuddlier they are, the more likely they are to raise the ire of PETA. Seals, e.g.

A wild seal isn't cuddly at all, they're pretty vicious.

I love seal meat personally, and I have no moral issues eating it. Seals are pretty much as free range as you can get, and seal hunters use as much of the animal as possible - pelts for clothing, meat for eats, hell they even sell seal penii to japan. If you ask me, seals have a better life than pretty much every animal that's raised for slaughter.

Rant mode on: Yup, seals, especially gray seals are vicious. Their stock size in eastern Canada has gone up almost exponentially in the last 20 years and is way better shape than most fish stocks in the world. Same with dolphins and some species of whales, dolphins in the world are doing pretty good, but because people think seals and dolphins are so cute they bring in money for those stupid propaganda organizations such as PETA and Greenpeace. Millions spent to save a few dolphins when the stock is in pretty good shape.

At the same time we have "ugly" species that are going extinct, but few people care. Few examples, black footed ferrets in North America, Mekong Giant Catfish in Asia, tons of frog and salamander species and I could go on and on. Rant mode off

I think several countries have declared dolphins as non human people, because of their extreme intelligence. http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/ ... s_india-0/

Perhaps we should take out "cuddly", and insert "intelligent".

Also from what you say perhaps the most ethical thing would be to eat overpopulated species.

GuingesRock wrote:

Also from what you say perhaps the most ethical thing would be to eat overpopulated species.

Yup, starting with humans


All joking aside, we might need to start looking into that in the future. Locust, beetles and so on.

chalmers wrote:Gm-, I had heard so much about Icelandic horse that I was excited to try it. But the one place I saw it, it was $50 a plate, so I took a pass. A different place, I'm sure you've heard of, and maybe visited, the Sushi restaurant in Reykjavik that serves house sashimi? I couldn't convince EZ to head there with me, though. Didn't get to have my underwater boiled guillemot eggs either (my scuba dive to Strytan was called off due to bad weather).

Darn, $50 a plate is outrageous, 5 years ago you could buy a whole foal tenderloin for half that. I've heard a lot of good things about the horse sashimi, but I think that place opened up after I left. Guillemot eggs are delicious, fulmar and black back gull eggs are also pretty tasty, I miss eating those in the spring. Did you try smoked puffin?

gm- wrote:
Yup, starting with humans

Not the cute cuddly ones though, or any that are more intelligent than dolphins...that's all!...you won't go hungry

gm- wrote: Darn, $50 a plate is outrageous, 5 years ago you could buy a whole foal tenderloin for half that. I've heard a lot of good things about the horse sashimi, but I think that place opened up after I left. Guillemot eggs are delicious, fulmar and black back gull eggs are also pretty tasty, I miss eating those in the spring. Did you try smoked puffin?

No, I didn't see it on the menu anywhere. I did see whale at a few spots, but I had heard reports of "counterfeit" whale being served, so I wasn't prepared to spend a lot to eat something else. I'm not really a seafood guy, but I was prepared to try it, to say I did. We also didn't make it to anywhere to try Hakarl, another regret. Found the sushi joint: Sushibarinn (also have whale nigiri).

Maybe I'll need you to send or smuggle me home some authentic cuisine if you are over there again soon. Or next time I get there, I need to be more adventurous. I'm glad my only regrets about Iceland are the foods I DIDN'T try, everything I did have was excellent.