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Issues with DME

Post by sleepyjamie » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:20 pm

I've used a few batches with DME additions from NG and it seems every time I do my batches finish at final gravity higher than I wanted. usually around 1.018 for a 1.062 beer.

anyone else have issues with DME from NG?
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by amartin » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:12 pm

I did a few times awhile back, and I tested it for starch with some iodine. It came up positive. I haven't used any since.

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Re: Issues with DME

Post by NASH » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:53 pm

I haven't used any DME for about a million yrs but back in the day the stuff was awful for the same reason. According to the supplier it was what it was: the dehydration process caramelized more sugars leaving it less fermentable. Results may vary from different manufacturers or techniques of manufacture but I gave up and really have no idea how the more modern day stuff is :cheers:

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Re: Issues with DME

Post by spears104 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:54 pm

I only used DME from NG once and had a similar experience. I use their bulk LME with no problems. I usually stick with Muntons light DME now, I buy these in 25 kg boxes.
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by Downs » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:08 pm

hey spears where do you get those 25kg of light dme boxes?

I was told to offset the DME with a bit of dextrose as the sugars in dme are less fermentable.
So I tend to put a bit of extra dextrose in above what the recipe was calling for for sugar.
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by sleepyjamie » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:41 pm

Thanks for the heads up.

What are you guys using for yeast starters?
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by jeffsmith » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:53 pm

sleepyjamie wrote:Thanks for the heads up.

What are you guys using for yeast starters?
I use Briess Pilsen Light DME for yeast starters but have been thinking about brewing up a 1.035 wort from 2-row and using a pressure cooker to can it. That way I wouldn't have to rely on expensive DME any more.

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Re: Issues with DME

Post by spears104 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:58 pm

Downs wrote:hey spears where do you get those 25kg of light dme boxes?

I was told to offset the DME with a bit of dextrose as the sugars in dme are less fermentable.
So I tend to put a bit of extra dextrose in above what the recipe was calling for for sugar.
I get my local homebrew shop to order it. They get it from winemakeri. It works out to $8.60/kg when you buy it like this ($215 for the box.)
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by derek » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:31 pm

jeffsmith wrote:
sleepyjamie wrote:Thanks for the heads up.

What are you guys using for yeast starters?
I use Briess Pilsen Light DME for yeast starters but have been thinking about brewing up a 1.035 wort from 2-row and using a pressure cooker to can it. That way I wouldn't have to rely on expensive DME any more.
Interesting idea - how about making it a much higher gravity and diluting before use? It seems like a waste of mason jars otherwise.

Won't my wife be surprised to see me using her new canner...
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Re: Issues with DME

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spears104 wrote:
Downs wrote:hey spears where do you get those 25kg of light dme boxes?

I was told to offset the DME with a bit of dextrose as the sugars in dme are less fermentable.
So I tend to put a bit of extra dextrose in above what the recipe was calling for for sugar.
I get my local homebrew shop to order it. They get it from winemakeri. It works out to $8.60/kg when you buy it like this ($215 for the box.)
holy shit
as in the Winemakeri in lower sackville
which is 2 mins from my house
ok feeling sort of like an idiot now
this should at least beat NG's price by a few bucks a kg
thanks so much
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by akr71 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:34 pm

derek wrote:
jeffsmith wrote:
sleepyjamie wrote:Thanks for the heads up.

What are you guys using for yeast starters?
I use Briess Pilsen Light DME for yeast starters but have been thinking about brewing up a 1.035 wort from 2-row and using a pressure cooker to can it. That way I wouldn't have to rely on expensive DME any more.
Interesting idea - how about making it a much higher gravity and diluting before use? It seems like a waste of mason jars otherwise.

Won't my wife be surprised to see me using her new canner...
You could also freeze it, of course, then you have to wait for it to thaw.
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by derek » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:19 pm

akr71 wrote:
derek wrote:
jeffsmith wrote:... have been thinking about brewing up a 1.035 wort from 2-row and using a pressure cooker to can it.
Won't my wife be surprised to see me using her new canner...
You could also freeze it, of course, then you have to wait for it to thaw.
No, actually, I couldn't. My home is off-grid, and we have a very small freezer, which is always full, so canning really is an attractive option.
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by akr71 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:22 pm

Well then, I can freeze it.
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by know1 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:02 am

Downs wrote:
spears104 wrote:
Downs wrote:hey spears where do you get those 25kg of light dme boxes?

I was told to offset the DME with a bit of dextrose as the sugars in dme are less fermentable.
So I tend to put a bit of extra dextrose in above what the recipe was calling for for sugar.
I get my local homebrew shop to order it. They get it from winemakeri. It works out to $8.60/kg when you buy it like this ($215 for the box.)
holy shit
as in the Winemakeri in lower sackville
which is 2 mins from my house
ok feeling sort of like an idiot now
this should at least beat NG's price by a few bucks a kg
thanks so much

I may be wrong but I believe they only sell wholesale to companies...but then again so does NCM :lol:
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by mr x » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:36 am

That price is ridiculous, unfortunately, NCM didn't have the DME in stock when we placed our order. :(
At Alexander Keith's we follow the recipes first developed by the great brewmaster to the absolute letter. :wtf:

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Re: Issues with DME

Post by spears104 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:39 am

mr x wrote:That price is ridiculous, unfortunately, NCM didn't have the DME in stock when we placed our order. :(
Its the best price I could get out in the sticks...I guess I have to investigate the group buys!
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by mr x » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:55 am

Definitely. About $100 for 50lbs.
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Post by RubberToe » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:47 am

jeffsmith wrote:I use Briess Pilsen Light DME for yeast starters but have been thinking about brewing up a 1.035 wort from 2-row and using a pressure cooker to can it. That way I wouldn't have to rely on expensive DME any more.
That's what I'm planning on doing once my indoor rig is complete.
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by Downs » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:47 am

so ya no word back from them if they sell locally
works out to maybe a buck a pound savings at this price from NG
perhaps not worth buying a big lot, just buying small until the next group buy
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Re: Issues with DME

Post by KMcK » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:50 pm

know1 wrote:
Downs wrote:
spears104 wrote:I get my local homebrew shop to order it. They get it from winemakeri. It works out to $8.60/kg when you buy it like this ($215 for the box.)
holy shit
as in the Winemakeri in lower sackville
which is 2 mins from my house
ok feeling sort of like an idiot now
this should at least beat NG's price by a few bucks a kg
thanks so much
I may be wrong but I believe they only sell wholesale to companies...but then again so does NCM :lol:
They sell retail on-line but I don't think they have retail on-site.
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