Stock Pot or Keggle?
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Stock Pot or Keggle?
Hey guys,
So I'm making the move to all grain and I would like your opinion. My mash tun is probibly a little overkill for 5 gallon batches (62quart cooler because I had it laying around) so I think i might make the move to 10gal batches at the same time. The question I ask is should I go to some place like big erics and get a 15 gallon stock pot or should I keep my eye out for a sanke keg?
Thanks!
Andrew
So I'm making the move to all grain and I would like your opinion. My mash tun is probibly a little overkill for 5 gallon batches (62quart cooler because I had it laying around) so I think i might make the move to 10gal batches at the same time. The question I ask is should I go to some place like big erics and get a 15 gallon stock pot or should I keep my eye out for a sanke keg?
Thanks!
Andrew
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
Both.
Sometimes kegs can be hard to get your hands on and if you can find a decent 15 gallon kettle that fits your price range first, grab it. When you do get your hands on a sanke, you just convert it or the stock pot into your Hot Liquor Tun.
Edit: Some people have aquired a keg by getting it from the liquor store - pay the deposit, but don't return it. Its expensive (here), but its not your fault that the liquor store charges a deposit that is less than the value of a new keg. Some have ethical issues with this method, since its the brewery that's losing, not the liquor store.
Sometimes kegs can be hard to get your hands on and if you can find a decent 15 gallon kettle that fits your price range first, grab it. When you do get your hands on a sanke, you just convert it or the stock pot into your Hot Liquor Tun.
Edit: Some people have aquired a keg by getting it from the liquor store - pay the deposit, but don't return it. Its expensive (here), but its not your fault that the liquor store charges a deposit that is less than the value of a new keg. Some have ethical issues with this method, since its the brewery that's losing, not the liquor store.
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
How much does a 15 gallon stock pot go for nowadays? I'm making a similar move and I was just going to stick with 5 gallon batches and get a big pot from Crappy Tire. But I could be enticed...
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
Not too sure, i'm guessing probably $100 - $150 for a good tri clad pot, but i'll let you know my next week day off. Might be as late as the 24th when i get a chance to go to big erics. I'm also going to keep my eye open for the next time Paderno is at the forum with their factory second sales. I remember seeing big pots there but not sure if they were 15 gal or not
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
I can't imagine what a Paderno 15 gal pot would cost...
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The biggest Paderno stock pot I've seen at the factory on the Island was somewhere around 25 qt. I believe and was somewhere between $500 and $550. Couldn't imagine tossing that on a propane burner...mr x wrote:I can't imagine what a Paderno 15 gal pot would cost...
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
i bought a 48 litre pot at rona. very thin aluminum, but it's big enough for me 

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Kegged: barrel barleywine from 2014 - i think i still have this somewhere
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Kegged: barrel barleywine from 2014 - i think i still have this somewhere
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
Well looks like Paderno is out
I thought I saw some decently huge stuff there but never did look at the price tag

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I just checked and full list price on a 27 quart is $536 from paderno
I didn't even spend half that on the two stock pots I have now and they are full on 18/10. (yes i love to cook)


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I used a mega-thin aluminum turkey fryer pot for years. Worked like a charm.
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
The $60 48L aluminum stock pot at RONA is a great deal! I have a sanke keg ready to be converted, but I need to figure out my 'hop stop' and wort chilling options before jumping up to full boils. Tempted to just make a simple immersion chiller like most folks.. but am open to ideas. Maybe a cheap plate chiller is the way to go (then I need a pump.. )
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
The Rona pot does sound like the way to go. I can get all the copper I need for my chiller at the same time.
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
I'm still using a thin aluminum turkey fryer / propane burner setup. It's only 7.5 gallons, which limits me to 6 gallons or less with all grain, although I'll often add malt extract and dilute after boiling to up batch sizes. It was cheap enough though, so no complaints.
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Recently I stumbled across http://www.canadiantreasureseekers.com/ ... list&c=287.
Free shipping and I think the pots are pretty good. You can find reviews on most of them (some on HBT). If I didn't already have a keggle I may get a 44qt or larger from them.
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Free shipping and I think the pots are pretty good. You can find reviews on most of them (some on HBT). If I didn't already have a keggle I may get a 44qt or larger from them.
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
I guess the main thing i should be asking is "is my 62 quart cooler not going to give me the recommended 4" grain bed on a regular 5 gal batch under 1.060"
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
Pour ~10lbs of grain in there and find out. If not & you still don't have a kettle big enough to handle a full boil for a 10 gallon batch, do a few partigyle batches until you do. That way you'd add enough grain to get you 4" depth and get 2 beers out of every brew session 

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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
I really like the idea of the partigyle batches. I didn't know what the term was at first but it sounds like it would be a lot easier than my odd thought of putting pop bottles full of hot water in to take up space.
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Re: Stock Pot or Keggle?
I used this article and associated table to help sort out my recipes when I do a partigyle session (mostly the tables). Just to make sure the second runnings aren't too light, I give the mash tun a little recharge with about a pound of base malt and let it sit for another hour - it would sit that long anyway, since I only have one propane tank.
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