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Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:36 pm
by mindless2
Hey fellow Brewnosers,
I'm about to brew 10ga of saison.
I'll be splitting the batch a kettle souring half and racking onto fruit in the secondary.
This is the first time doing a kettle sour.
I was thinking I'd let it sit about 48hrs.
(I will use a combination of wyeast Belgian saison and wyeast farmhouse in each)

My questions...
How should I add my fruit? Frozen or should I raise the temp to sterilize or are both good options???

I have both glass carboys and bucket fermenter. I like the glass but it's harder to add fruit...
Any opinions??

Lastly once on the fruit, how long should it sit on the fruit? 3 weeks good? Or longer?

Any other good tips??

Thanks!
Todd

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Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:17 pm
by Jimmy
Individually Quick Frozen (IQF) fruit is the easiest option - no need to sterilize.

For my raspberry Berliner Weisse, I did 5 days on the fruit; after that I wasn't getting anything noticeable from it.

Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:13 am
by mindless2
Awesome I'll give it a whirl, thanks!

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Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:20 pm
by MitchK
do I absolutely have to rack onto the fruit? Would I somehow destroy my berliner weisse if I just dumped the fruit in like I'm dry hopping in primary?

Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:20 pm
by Jimmy
MitchK wrote:do I absolutely have to rack onto the fruit? Would I somehow destroy my berliner weisse if I just dumped the fruit in like I'm dry hopping in primary?
That's what I do.

Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:49 pm
by LeafMan66_67
I put the IQF fruit (thawed to room temp) into my primary as well. Used to rack in top of fruit in secondary, just cut out a step.

Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:00 pm
by jacinthebox
I also add fruit to the primary..

Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:01 am
by MitchK
Awesome. I'm gonna taste my first Berliner weisse today and then decide whether it is getting fruited or not.

Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:49 pm
by oceanic_brew
I've been buying bags of frozen raspberry from Costco. I always heat them to 170 for 15 mins before adding them but my house fills full of delcious raspberry aroma. I would rather just add them but I'm fearful of infection. As far as I know freezing doesn't completely kill all microbes.

Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:13 pm
by LeafMan66_67
oceanic_brew wrote:I've been buying bags of frozen raspberry from Costco. I always heat them to 170 for 15 mins before adding them but my house fills full of delcious raspberry aroma. I would rather just add them but I'm fearful of infection. As far as I know freezing doesn't completely kill all microbes.
I think that you will find that the IQF berries from Costco and other stores are safe to use as is.

Re: Racking a kettle sour on fruit, technique? time? Tips?

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:02 am
by know1
I added a bag of frozen cherries to a kettle soured hefe. I added a couple splashes of vodka after a partial thaw/crush while still cold for good measure. tasted great after two weeks going into the keg