W34-70 Lager vs. S-23

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W34-70 Lager vs. S-23

Post by jason.loxton » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:55 pm

German friend has a birthday coming up. Want to brew up a few German lagers. Have not decided on which ones yet. Going to use both dry and vial yeast for comparison. Wondering what people's thoughts are on these two strains. I have not used either one.

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Re: W34-70 Lager vs. S-23

Post by LiverDance » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:01 pm

jason.loxton wrote:German friend has a birthday coming up. Want to brew up a few German lagers. Have not decided on which ones yet. Going to use both dry and vial yeast for comparison. Wondering what people's thoughts are on these two strains. I have not used either one.

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I like S-23 for a nice clean profile but I haven't had much luck with 34-70 there was always something "off" about the beers that i made with that.
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Re: W34-70 Lager vs. S-23

Post by jason.loxton » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:04 pm

Interesting. The Internet is saying the opposite. I found a post with Denny Conn trashing S-23 and praising 34-70 for its clean character (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/ferment ... ost1088271" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). I would be really interested in hearing more Brewnosers' personal experiences. (Next year I want to do a bunch of 10-15 gallon split batches to start testing some of these comparisons directly for myself.)

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Re: W34-70 Lager vs. S-23

Post by RubberToe » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:30 pm

My brews with S-23 have been nice and clean (including award winning pilsner). Maybe it's more sensitive to its environmental conditions? And you're right, you either read praise or people trashing that yeast.
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Re: W34-70 Lager vs. S-23

Post by Tony L » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:47 pm

I use mostly W34/70 for all my lagers, but have done some Festa kits using the S23 that comes with it. I prefer the W34/70.
I just find something off with the s23 that I don't get with the W34/70.

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