Brewha 3-in-1 kettle & jacketed conical (BIAC)

[GuingesRock]

Will you be heating the strike water in the new conical? Sounds like a good setup.

[Jimmy]

Yes, that's how I'd be heating it.

[GuingesRock]

That's going to be a great setup.

Can anyone think of a way to install your own DIY jacket on a pot?

[GuingesRock]

According to my calculations:

A 50’ x 3/8” immersion chiller has a surface area (in contact with the wort) of approx. 4,500 cm2.

If my 16 Gal pot had a jacket, the surface area (in contact with the wort) of the side of the pot up to the fluid level would be approx. 4800 cm2

…about the same. I think that's a plus for the Brewha as I thought it might be less. That's assuming the cold water flows through the jacket in an efficient way, which I think it might. Cold water I presume enters the bottom of the jacket and warm leaves it at the top on the other side of the pot? so convection works the right way up and water flows around the pot.

[AllanMar]

According to my calculations:

A 50’ x 3/8” immersion chiller has a surface area (in contact with the wort) of approx. 4,500 cm2.

If my 16 Gal pot had a jacket, the surface area (in contact with the wort) of the side of the pot up to the fluid level would be approx. 4800 cm2

…about the same. I think that's a plus for the Brewha as I thought it might be less. That's assuming the cold water flows through the jacket in an efficient way, which I think it might. Cold water I presume enters the bottom of the jacket and warm leaves it at the top on the other side of the pot? so convection works the right way up and water flows around the pot.

Sounds about right, although I expect the immersion chiller may be more effective then the jacket due to the flow around it (depending on the configuration). The biggest perk (IMHO) of a jacketed pot is no additional cleaning/nothing extra to have to sanitize.

[GuingesRock]

Yes it’s very neat and tidy.

Also, cold water will probably flow through the jacket at a higher rate than through a 3/8” coil, but regardless, I think the jacket will function roughly the same as a fixed coil in the pot, and cooling will be as slow, unless there is a whirlpool going. If there is a whirlpool going, cooling will be fast and effective.

It might be possible that cooling the sides of the pot might result in better convection currents then a fixed immersion chiller. I don't know the answer to that. Blichmann reckons that their boil coil creates better convection currents because it runs around close to the side the pot.

I think the cone at the bottom is single walled if you wanted to dare drilling holes in it and putting in some whirlpool ports just below the jacket. They might drill the holes?

[Jimmy]

I think the cone at the bottom is single walled if you wanted to dare drilling holes in it and putting in some whirlpool ports just below the jacket. They might drill the holes?

I think you should be able to get a whirlpool going by pulling wort from the bottom drain and pumping it back in through the port just below the thermowell - you'd just need something like this installed in that port (which also helps with removing wort with the yeast/hops still in the fermenter).

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[GuingesRock]

You've put a lot of thought and research into this.

[mr x]

That's for a jacketed cone. Is this new rig jacketed down low?

[Jimmy]

That's for a jacketed cone. Is this new rig jacketed down low?

Yes, the liquid input for the jacket is the hose with the purple arrow.

[Jimmy]

Just placed my order for the 3 in 1

[AllanMar]

Just placed my order for the 3 in 1

Nice. Whats shipping run on something like this to here? (if you dont mind me asking).

[Jimmy]

$240 and is shipped in a wooden crate.

[AllanMar]

Wow, that's a pretty good deal (both for the conical and shipping). When I looked at getting just a kettle shipped from stout-tanks I'm pretty sure it was more then that.

[Jimmy]

These are shipped from BC, not sure where stout ships from?

[AllanMar]

These are shipped from BC, not sure where stout ships from?

I totally missed that there were in Canada also (just assumed US only). Stout is in Oregon.

[GuingesRock]

Just placed my order for the 3 in 1

[redoubt]

Exciting! What's the ETA? Also, when are we all invited for a brew to see this bad boy in action?

-Keely.

[Jimmy]

It currently has about a 10 week lead time (not including transport), so I'd expect it to arrive around the end of May.

Getting around to brewing on it will likely be just as long..have to get the the wiring completed, and an exhaust hood in place. Would also like to get a utility sink installed in the basement, but not sure when that will happen. I'd say brewing by end of summer is optimistic.

[GuingesRock]

Jimmy, Is there any chance of making a purpose built brewing area for that in your new house, with a tiled floor and a floor drain?

[GAM]

I would settle for no washing machine.

Sandy

[Jimmy]

Jimmy, Is there any chance of making a purpose built brewing area for that in your new house, with a tiled floor and a floor drain?

I wish!

Not sure of the cost associated with that, but don't see it happening anytime soon. I'll have spent enough money just getting this whole thing up and running.

[GuingesRock]

Jimmy, my system is a bit similar and I always use dry yeast. I haven't yet figured out a way of aerating wort in there in case I ever wanted to use liquid yeast. Had you thought about that for the 3-in-1? do the manufacturers have a recommendation for that?

[Jimmy]

Jimmy, my system is a bit similar and I always use dry yeast. I haven't yet figured out a way of aerating wort in there in case I ever wanted to use liquid yeast. Had you thought about that for the 3-in-1? do the manufacturers have a recommendation for that?

You can pump 02 directly into it, or use something to manually aerate it. I've used the wine degasser before - it's all stainless and hooks up to a drill for an easy job.

[NASH]

Holy O2 pumpers, Batman!

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