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Malt Mill Motor

Post by Jimmy » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:42 pm

Looking at motorizing my Monster Mill - what is the best place to buy a motor local or online. I don't want to buy outside of Canada.

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Post by mr x » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:46 pm

I got my gearhead motor at PrincessAuto. Rugged and cheap.
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Post by Jimmy » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:00 pm

Had a quick look on their site, and couldn't find much. Any idea what the specs would be on a gear head motor?

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Post by mr x » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:05 pm

They have a lot of stuff laying around that isn't on the website. I'll get a pic off the nameplate later today.
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Post by AllanMar » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:03 pm

Last I was there they still have 1-2 of the Bodine gear motors. They're in the back with the surplus stuff, ~550rpm I believe ~$79-89 IIRC.
Other than that they have your standard new 1800rpm motors.

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Post by mikeorr » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:04 am

Jimmy, I'm totally going to take advantage of your legwork here - let me know what you figure out, I'd like to do the same with my monster mill. :)

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Post by MitchK » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:15 pm

is there an advantage other than swag factor to using a motor like this instead of a cordless drill? I have a barley crusher rather than a monster mill if that matters.

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Post by Jimmy » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:14 pm

MitchK wrote:is there an advantage other than swag factor to using a motor like this instead of a cordless drill? I have a barley crusher rather than a monster mill if that matters.
I'm pretty sure I'll burn my drill out on the monster mill. The same drill running the barley crusher had zero problems and could run all day long.

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Post by bluenose » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:39 am

I like having my hands free and letting the motor do it's thing
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Post by MitchK » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:51 pm

I use drills every day at work so I'm sure whatever wear I put on it with a mill will be nothing compared to using it all day to drill through steel... I suppose wearing out the drill would be more of a concern if I had one of the more "budget" oriented dewalts.

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Post by Jimmy » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:12 pm

MitchK wrote:I use drills every day at work so I'm sure whatever wear I put on it with a mill will be nothing compared to using it all day to drill through steel... I suppose wearing out the drill would be more of a concern if I had one of the more "budget" oriented dewalts.
It's not a concern with the barley crusher. It's surprising the difference in torque required between the barley crusher and monster mill. I could run the drill wide open no problem with the monster mill, it's running the drill at low speeds and still having enough torque that's the problem.

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Post by Jimmy » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:31 pm

mr x wrote:They have a lot of stuff laying around that isn't on the website. I'll get a pic off the nameplate later today.
Have a pic? I stopped in Princess Auto yesterday and couldn't find much.

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Post by mr x » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:08 pm

Sorry, forgot about the pic. I'll get on that when I'm back onshore
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Post by Jimmy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:14 am

What is the best place in town to buy pulleys/sheaves? Looking for 5/8" x 1" and 1/2" x 10", or as close to that as I can get.

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Post by mr x » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:57 am

Princess Auto or Canadian tire. That smaller one probably does not exist. Do you still need the motor pic? Home now.
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Post by Jimmy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:01 am

mr x wrote:Princess Auto or Canadian tire. That smaller one probably does not exist. Do you still need the motor pic? Home now.
No, that's alright. I ended up ordering a motor.

I was thinking the smaller one may not exist because of the small difference between bore and outer diameter. The smallest I could find for a 5/8 bore was 1.75" OD

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Re: Malt Mill Motor

Post by Jimmy » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:56 am

Has anyone used a split tapered bushing on their mill before?

Was thinking of going with the following on the mill itself - just wondering if it would work? Any downsides to using a split tapered bushing instead of a pulley that matches the shaft size on the mill?

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Post by spears104 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:53 am

Shouldn't be any downside. Split bushings are used in industrial belt drives all the time, up to hundreds of horsepower.
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Post by Keggermeister » Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:30 pm

That's how mine is run.

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Post by mcgster » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:45 am

Jimmy wrote:Looking at motorizing my Monster Mill - what is the best place to buy a motor local or online. I don't want to buy outside of Canada.

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Jimmy, how did you make out with this project. I want to pull the trigger on mine asap and was wondering if you had any advice based on your experience.

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Re: Malt Mill Motor

Post by Jimmy » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:58 am

mcgster wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Looking at motorizing my Monster Mill - what is the best place to buy a motor local or online. I don't want to buy outside of Canada.

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Jimmy, how did you make out with this project. I want to pull the trigger on mine asap and was wondering if you had any advice based on your experience.
I haven't finished my build, been procrastinating.

I ordered a 1hp grizzley motor from amazon (not the cheapest option, but I had gift cards to use). I also spoke with a man by the name of Don Kelly at Applied Industrial Technologies in Burnside (902 468 4300). He was very helpful and they are likely your best option if you're starting from scratch.

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Re: Malt Mill Motor

Post by mcgster » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:16 am

That is a nice looking motor, your setup will look pretty slick.

Did you decide on going the pulley route or through a gear reducer? I have a 3/4 hp motor kicking around that i'm going to try and rig up to save myself the $$ on a new one. Then i'm probably going to go the pulley/sheave route to keep the cost down. Reading on HBT i have mixed feelings on the pulley/sheave route, some say it works amazing, others complain of belts slipping. That said it is so much cheaper than a gear reducer and i could always go that route if i had issues.

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Re: Malt Mill Motor

Post by Keggermeister » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:42 pm

Pulleys work great. If you have belt slippage, tighten the belt! When you build it make sure you design a way to tension the belt. Most, including Keiths that I just built, have slots so the motor can move an inch or so for belt removal/tightening.

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Post by mcgster » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:44 pm

Keggermeister wrote:Pulleys work great. If you have belt slippage, tighten the belt! When you build it make sure you design a way to tension the belt. Most, including Keiths that I just built, have slots so the motor can move an inch or so for belt removal/tightening.
Yah, i definitely can't see how belt slippage would be an issue. You don't even need a belt tensioner when you can just slide the motor and screw it down again lol..

That being said belt slippage was a recurring issue on HBT, thats the only reason i brought it up.

Now i just have to wait for the new mill to arrive.

Do you have pics of the setup you and Keith did?

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