2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

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2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by HoweFox » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:51 pm

Well this is my first lager. Had good temperature control the entire time, but think I still got some yeast off-flavours (diactyl).

OG: 1.050 SG
FG: 1.014
ABV: 4.7%
Estimated Color: 11.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 33.9 IBUs
Boil Time: 90 Minutes
Mashed 152F for 60 minutes with full volume(BIAB)

Ingredients:
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Grain
5 lbs Pilsner
4 lbs Munich Malt
3 lbs Vienna Malt
1 lbs Caramunich II

Hops
1.25 oz Hallertauer [6.40 %] - Boil 60.0 min
0.75 oz Hallertauer [6.40 %] - Boil 10.0 min

Yeast
2.0 pkg Saflager Lager (DCL/Fermentis #W-34/70)

For fermentation I pretty much used this as my guide:
http://brulosophy.com/methods/lager-method/

7 days at 12C.
Ramped up to 18C in 2 steps over 2 days. Stayed there for 1 week.
Back down to 3C for 2 weeks.
Kegged and kept at 3C for 3 weeks before bottling the night before the exchange.
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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by Buccaneer » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:58 pm

How did you mash this? What temperature did you ferment at?

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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by Buccaneer » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:25 pm

I was looking forward to this one - I love märzen, oktoberfest, and festbier.

Definitely some diacetyl as it warmed up, but it wasn't out of control.

Colour was great, tasted great, although maybe just a touch too bitter.

I thoroughly enjoyed this and would happily drink more. Thanks!

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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by oceanic_brew » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:48 pm

I liked this beer. I've never had a Marzen and I don't know what it's supposed to be.


To me it tastes like a bock with more hop flavor and bitterness. I noticed a minor off flavor on the finish. I almost wanted to call it oxidized but nope not sure.

Carbonation is perfect for the beer, I love the color and the nice deep Malt flavor. The hops do not at all interfere with this.

Thanks for the beer!






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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by Halifax_Jeff » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:00 pm

Drank this one last night and it was my first of its kind. I liked the look of the beer and it was carbed nice. I liked how malty it was.

There was a little something in the flavor that was a different but it might have just been the flavour combo of the grains. Not bad, just new to me. Curious to know about your fermentation for this beer. Thanks

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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by HoweFox » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:07 pm

I updated my original post with mash and fermentation details. Overall I don't mind the beer, but I tend to focus on the flaw (which I think is diacetyl) during the finish.

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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by KB1138 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:23 pm

Not super familiar with the style, but I quite enjoyed this. Some diacetyl was in there, but it wasn't a fault in this beer. Really nice toasty malt flavours through out. Thanks for sharing
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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by oceanic_brew » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:41 pm

I liked this beer. I've never had a Marzen and I don't know what it's supposed to be.


To me it tastes like a bock with more hop flavor and bitterness. I noticed a minor off flavor on the finish. I almost wanted to call it oxidized but nope not sure.

Carbonation is perfect for the beer, I love the color and the nice deep Malt flavor. The hops do not at all interfere with this.

Thanks for the beer!






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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by amartin » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:01 pm

I like this, it's a good normal beer. It's a nice change of pace from the crazy nonsense some of us have brewed for this.

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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by darciandjenn » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:38 am

I thought this was a very nice marzen. The wife picked up some possible acetaldehyde but she's very sensitive to that.

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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by Broob » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:52 pm

darciandjenn wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:38 am
I thought this was a very nice marzen. The wife picked up some possible acetaldehyde but she's very sensitive to that.
Don’t let her have any of mine on the 17th then. Ha.
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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by John G » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:20 pm

This was very well done. The recipe was right on with respect to Marzen, although your recipe has it slightly higher alcohol for the style, but that's not noticed at all. Nice bread, toasty malt aromas and flavours, low but great supporting hop bitterness. I do get diacetyl, particularly when it warms up. A little longer on the yeast before you cool it down would clean that up, although it's not at a high level. This is a great example of classic style beer.

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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by jmacdonald » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:25 am

Never had a marzen before. Found it malty and a bit sweet in the finish. Glad to have tried it.

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Re: 2017 Advent - December 14: Marzen

Post by sheppard107 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:05 pm

Great bready malt aroma and flavour. Was a bit too bitter for the style I think, but still a very pleasant drink. Thanks!

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