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Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:16 pm
by GAM
40l
7.5kg 2 row
1Kg each Roast barley, flaked oat, chocolate and biscuit
150g El dorado mash
60g Chnook First wort
30g Cascade at 5,2,1 and 0 Min
30 min Mash & boil

Sandy

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:08 pm
by Halifax_Jeff
What yeast did you use Sandy?

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:24 pm
by GAM
US-05

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:39 pm
by LiverDance
Lots of hops going on in this one. Tasty stuff Sandy :cheers3:

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:33 pm
by John G
Nice one Sandy. Cleanly brewed. Lots of hop flavour in there for a stout and it's ok with me. The flavour and finish remind me of a well-pulled espresso shot. Very rich. Thanks for sharing. :cheers2:

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:03 pm
by CartoonCod
Really enjoyable. Lots of nice roast. There is a bit of an acrid metallic taste going on but that is pretty minor. I'm getting a decent amount of fruity hoppiness. The carbonation is a bit on the low side, but its perfect for the style. It is really hitting the spot tonight!

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:19 pm
by mumblecrunch
Really solid stout. Nice smooth mouthfeel, plenty of roast character, and a prominent bitterness. I thought it tasted hoppy, but didn't expect to see quite that much hops in this style. Totally works though. And it certainly drinks like a hoppier stout rather than a Black IPA.

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:08 pm
by GAM
Now some have chimed in I will confess to a 30 min mach and boil.

The roast and hops may cover the flaws from the short boil.

S

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:17 pm
by CartoonCod
Maybe I should start trying a 30 min mash and boil.

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:20 pm
by GAM
I have experimented with it off and on. No tragic beer but I don't have a judges pallet.

S

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:35 am
by know1
Nice tasty stout. The roast shines strong amid the hop dosing. Seemed a tad thin but maybe that's just my general preference. Is very easy drinking. Thanks Sandy.

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:31 am
by sheppard107
Quite nice, good and roasty. I quite liked it.

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:53 am
by oceanic_brew
Really surprised to see how well that amount and variety of hops worked with the level of roast. This beer is a testament to how unreliable our eyes can be when it comes to flavors.

I think a little more body would make the beer even more enjoyable for me but it doesn’t detract from the flavors melding together well. This is what I look for in a well made beer, flavors that deliver as one congruent package.


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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:52 am
by Buccaneer
Soooo much cocoa, which I loved. The top popped with vigour, so I expected it to be super carbonated, but I was pleasantly surprised at the actual level. Definitely lots of roast notes in there. The chocolate absolutely dominated for me and I didn't notice the hops all that much.

Great beer! Thanks!

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:31 pm
by amartin
I haven’t had the beer yet, I’m still a few days behind. I’ve moved to a 30 minute boil as well for most beers since spring at least, except for a few where I’ve added too much water and needed to boil it down some. I haven’t had any issues.


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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:07 pm
by Brewnoser
CartoonCod wrote:Maybe I should start trying a 30 min mash and boil.
Remember. Greg was known as “Quick Mash Nash” in Wisconsin. 15-20 mins was all he felt necessary. Longer meant astringency.


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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:10 pm
by Brewnoser
Judge sheet for this one.
That espresso pull and acrid metallic finish several of you noted was all that kept this from a great score. Still high 30’s. Fix that and it’s plus 40. Image


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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:38 pm
by Halifax_Jeff
Enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing. Nothing major to add I found it a nice change from a standard stout.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:56 pm
by Woody
Haven't been in the exchange in a few years. What a gift to have Brewnoser evaluate them and with such detail. That's an early Christmas gift in my opinion. Cheers.

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:22 pm
by GAM
Help me out with the "acrid metallic finish ", water treatment, less roast ???

Sandy

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 pm
by Woody
GAM wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:22 pm
Help me out with the "acrid metallic finish ", water treatment, less roast ???

Sandy
Sandman you used allot of dark roast. Easiest way is to add all dark grain the last 5 mins of mash. X)

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 pm
by Woody
I also use Thomas Fawcett Roasted Barley and chocolate and it makes a huge difference. Not roasted as much and smoother.

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:11 pm
by wcturnedec
Woody wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 pm
GAM wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:22 pm
Help me out with the "acrid metallic finish ", water treatment, less roast ???

Sandy
Sandman you used allot of dark roast. Easiest way is to add all dark grain the last 5 mins of mash. X)
Ya that would be my suggestion as well or cold steep the dark grains for 24 hours...similar to cold brew coffee.

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:11 pm
by Brewnoser
All good ideas. Maybe try boiiing half the roasted grain bill and steeping or late addition for the other half?

A yeast that is less attenuative might also leave some balancing malt.

Re: Beer #8 Stout

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:13 pm
by CartoonCod
I've got a similar metallic character in lighter beers from certain hops before.