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I've got little experience with making recipes. But after a friend left tonight with a challenge to turn a recipe that we were drinking into a real IPA, this is what I came up with! All ideas welcome.
250L IPA
eff 75%

50kg 2-Row
10kg Wheat malt
6kg Crystal 60
2kg Flaked Barley
Mashed at 153'F with a R.I.M.S. set-up

12oz Galena @ 60 min
14oz Cascade @ 10 min

Ferment with Safale S-05 at 66'C

OK, first question - do you guys have brewing software? If not, get Beersmith, the trial copy is free.

The wheat and flaked barley have to go. I'd say 153f is a bit high for me, but it depends on your system. I mash my IPAs around 150.

You need many more late hop additions. If you're not a hardcore IPA drinker, you might want to go with 50-55 ibus total. Seeing you want to use cascade, I'll assume you are making an American version.

Look at some of the IPA recipes in the recipe section to get a feel for the late hopping. Off the top of my head, this is a good beginner recipe:

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Do you know your water profile?

Oh yes, welcome to the darkside, heh heh heh...

That Hoppiness Is an IPA recipe is great, I have some on tap now. I have to ask how the hell you cool 250 liters of wort? You must have a heat exchanger, right?

The Horizon are relatively easy to sub, although Magnum would be my first choice, as opposed to Chinook or Galena. NG may have Simcoe, although it will be costly in the amounts you want. But the general idea is right there for a hop schedule for an IPA - until you decide that you are a hop addict and need to use a shovel instead of a scale, lol.

mr x wrote:The Horizon are relatively easy to sub, although Magnum would be my first choice, as opposed to Chinook or Galena. NG may have Simcoe, although it will be costly in the amounts you want. But the general idea is right there for a hop schedule for an IPA - until you decide that you are a hop addict and need to use a shovel instead of a scale, lol.

On a quick Beersmith scale up your looking at 350g per addition on that recipe

I do have Beersmith and I adjusted some things. This is close to something I brewed already at this size; so this is why I am leaving the wheat in. I want this recipe to evolve into what it will be. (Which means I'm scared to make big changes at that volume) And yes I have a heat exchanger.
The recipe now reads
50kg 2-Row-75.8%
10kg Wheat-15.2%
6kg Crystal 60L-9.1%
12oz Galena@60 min
14oz Cascade@5 min

Mash at 150F
Beersmith shows
Og 1.060
IBU's 55.4
SRM 10.0
ABV 6.5%

I brewed my Rye IPA at fairly high mash temp (154) and I had wheat in mine... I think the mouthfeel and hop/malt balance is awesome. Mine finished out at 1.015, but I think if you have the right amount of hop bitterness, it can be a great approach to IPA. Cheers.

I've never seen an IPA with that much wheat, so you may come up with something great, or maybe it's a bad idea. But i wouldn't be scared to drop it, it's going to be fine with all 2-row. And I think you are still really shy on the late hops - for me anyway.

I could scale this down and do a comparison with and without wheat. Maybe in the 140L range. I'm not into real hoppy beers. I like browns and reds myself. But I have friends who would like an IPA.

Do you have friends that would like and IPA or something like Keiths IPA? There is a massive difference

That's exactly what I was about to ask. What kinds of IPAs are they drinking?

mr x wrote:That's exactly what I was about to ask. What kinds of IPAs are they drinking?

I don't even know why Keiths is allowed to call itself an IPA.

I think that that is a lot of wheat as well; my IPA's usually are about 90-94% 2-row on most occasions; but like wheat for the head retention and body.

I'm thinking,250L:

60kg 2-row(92%)
4kg crystal 60 (6%)
1.5kg Wheat(2%)

First wort: 6oz Galena
60min: 6oz Galena
30min : 5oz cascade
10min: 5oz Cascade
5min: 2oz Cascade
1min: 2oz Cascade

Depending on the AA% of your hops High 40's to 50's IBU I would think.
OG: @ 1.060(@ 75% eff.) I think.

He likes a real IPA, aka Propeller and others, sorry I should have stated the difference.

If he likes Propeller, I'd go with the Hoppiness Is an IPA recipe. That's a proven recipe that really works. There's a few recipes in here as well from our guys that look good. My main problem with your recipe is the lack of late hops. I could probably live with the wheat, as much as I don't agree with it in that quantity. Look at some of the recipes in this section for IPA recipes, and look at the hop schedule. You'll find a common thread...

HPhunter wrote:He likes a real IPA, aka Propeller and others, sorry I should have stated the difference.

I brewed this Propeller IPA clone that I made, turned out well.

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250L = nice