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Here's a recipe im thinking about for an APA.

9.5# Canadian 2-Row Malt (78%)
1.5# Melanoiden Malt (12%)
0.75# Munich Malt (6%)
0.5# Victory Malt (4%)

OG 1.055
8 SRM

Not sure what hops to go with. I have the following in my freezer:

Apollo, Nelson Sauvin, Galaxy, Cascade, Summit, Columbus

I was thinking a single hopped columbus and shoot for ~40 IBU.

Thoughts?

I like Victory. Here's TonyL's award winning APA recipe which also won me a medal.
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Edit: I agree with X - might be a little heavy handed on the melanoidin

I'm not so big on all the melanoiden, but columbus all the way is killer. Look at my WTF Pale Ale recipe.

maybe ill go a bit simpler and drop the melanoiden and stick with munich or maybe vienna instead.

what sorts of percentages of victory to use guys typically use in an APA?

up to 10%, tho I've seen recipes where it comes close to 20%

Ten percent sounds good to me.

Here's what I'll likely go with.

OG: 1.054
IBU: ~40
SRM: 7

78% 9# 8oz Canadian 2-Row Malt
14% 1# 12oz Munich Malt
8% 1# Victory Malt


boil 60 mins 0.5 Columbus pellet 11.1
boil 20 mins 1.0 Columbus pellet 11.1
boil 5 mins 1.0 Columbus pellet 11.1
post-boil 15 mins 1.0 Columbus pellet 11.1

That looks like a very good beer to me.

Melanoidin is fabulous malt and will add great complexity to any APA IPA DIPA DOPPEL-DUNKEL-HEFE-WEIZEN-BOCK or anything else you're looking for layered structure in.

12% is way too much for an APA though. It'll make it taste a bit lager-ish, read DMS.

looks like ill have to make two batches and compare!

thanks!