Thinking of a smoked pale....

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Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:37 pm

I want to do a simple smokey pale ale, gently hopped to not override the smoke. No more than 3 grains: 2 row, smoked malt, and ... ideas for #3? A light crystal? Some munich? Any thoughts?

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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by LiverDance » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:33 am

Munich would be good and you can use a large amount as well because it's a base malt. The brewing calssic styles rauch beer hase smomked, munich, caramel 30, melanoiden, and a touch of black for color, no 2row but then again it isn't a smoked pale like you want. How much smoke malt are you thinking?
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:43 am

I haven't used the smoked malt before, so I'm not too sure of its strength. It was bought from Noble Grape back in the fall if anyone has any experience with that. I want the smoke to prominent but not dominant or overriding. Off the top of my head, I was thinking of no more than 40% smoked malt.
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by LiverDance » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:54 am

40% will be good for smoked malt. I use 85% in that rauch beer and have tried 100% before as well.
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:12 am

:cheers:
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by jtmwhyte » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:08 pm

Funny, I just came up with a Smoky Irish Red recipe yesterday to brew this weekend. A buddy snagged me an extra 2lbs of smoked malt last week.
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by LiverDance » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:32 pm

Smoke 'em if you got 'em :cheers3:
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:15 pm

Okay. Now ... how much munich? ~10% ?
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by LiverDance » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:31 pm

dean2k wrote:Okay. Now ... how much munich? ~10% ?
10% Is a good amount maybe even up to 20%. The smoked malt lends it's self to a preceived dryness of the beer so the munich is a good counter balance to it IMO.
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:42 pm

Thumbs up. I'll start with 10%.
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:35 am

Here's the final bill. Stole a Tettnager and Hallertau hop schedule from the Brooklyn Brew Shop 1 Gal. book's BBQ Beer. Not sure about how gentle the hops will be now as the wort was coming across rather spicy.

48% 2 Row Pale
32% Smoked Malt
16% Munich
4% Amber (for shits and giggles )

Wish me luck!
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by Graham.C » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:31 pm

Good luck. I'd be interested in trying a bottle of this if you want to trade. I've never used smoked malt and would like to see what it did to your beer.
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:59 pm

Sure thing Graham. I'll need to QC one first, of course.
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:33 pm

Not so pale simple "smoked ale other". Achieved what I wanted to: smoke is definitely present, but not dominant at all. Good baseline if I ever wanted to get more aggressive. Now to work on haze reduction...

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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by Jimmy » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:56 pm

dean2k wrote:Now to work on haze reduction...
Cold crash the shit out of it for a couple weeks and it should be good to go.

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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:11 pm

Jimmy wrote:
dean2k wrote:Now to work on haze reduction...
Cold crash the shit out of it for a couple weeks and it should be good to go.
W-w-w-aiting??!? :lol:
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by GAM » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:01 pm

I find drinking it solves that trouble.

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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by Jimmy » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:04 pm

dean2k wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
dean2k wrote:Now to work on haze reduction...
Cold crash the shit out of it for a couple weeks and it should be good to go.
W-w-w-aiting??!? :lol:

You just need to build up a bigger stash - then you don't notice the wait :lol:

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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by Seanstoppable » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:47 pm

dean2k wrote:Now to work on haze reduction...
I would have thought haze would be thematically appropriate for a smoked pale.

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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by dean2k » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:36 am

Other Brewnosers wrote: ...I find drinking it solves that trouble....I would have thought haze would be thematically appropriate for a smoked pale.....
Perfect! Let's roll with that! ;)
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Re: Thinking of a smoked pale....

Post by Seanstoppable » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:12 pm

I've actually been inspired by this and plan to do something similar this weekend. And then maybe put a small portion in a secondary with some hot peppers to add a little flame to the smoke.

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