Westvletern XII

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Westvletern XII

Post by erslar00 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:11 pm

Has anyone tried to brew a clone of Westvletern XII and any luck? Does anyone have a copy of brew like a monk and is it a good resource? I found this on morebeer forums

Size: 6.5 gal
Efficiency: 86.7%
Attenuation: 83.2%
Calories: 356.51 per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.107 (1.075 - 1.110)
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Terminal Gravity: 1.018 (1.010 - 1.024)
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Color: 22.9 (15.0 - 20.0)
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Alcohol: 11.86% (8.0% - 12.0%)
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Bitterness: 31.69 (15.0 - 25.0)
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Ingredients:
10 lbs Belgian Pils
0.75 lbs Belgian Aromatic
0.75 lbs Belgian Biscuit
1.5 lbs Belgian Caramunich
0.50 lbs Special B - Caramel malt
0.13 lbs Chocolate Malt
6.0 lbs Dry Light DME
1.0 lbs Belgian Candi Syrup - last 5 min
1.5 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
.33 oz Hallertau Hersbruck (4.5%) - added during boil, boiled 45 min
.33 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 45 min
.33 oz Hallertau Hersbruck (4.5%) - added during boil, boiled 15 min
.33 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 15 min
.33 oz Hallertau Hersbruck (4.5%) - added during boil, boiled 0.0 min
0.50 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 0.0 min
2 ea White Labs WLP500 Trappist Ale
1 tbsp 5.2 pH Stabilizer - added during mash
1 ea Whirlfloc Tablets (Irish moss) - added during boil, boiled 15 min
1.0 ea Servomyces - added during boil, boiled 10 min

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Re: Westvletern XII

Post by jeffsmith » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:33 pm

I'm guessing that Westy 12 likely uses something in the Noble hop family in place of the Willamette.

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Re: Westvletern XII

Post by berley » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:45 pm

"Brew Like a Monk" is a great book, highly recommend it.

In terms of that recipe, from what I understand from several sources, that's probably way too complicated compared to what Westvleteren really goes with; I believe their recipe would be mostly Belgian Pale malt, and dark candi syrup. Not saying it won't make a tasty beer, but...

And I believe they get their yeast from Westmalle... but I'd have to check the book to be sure. The WLP500 is the Chimay equivalent, I think...
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Re: Westvletern XII

Post by LiverDance » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:58 pm

Is there yeast in the XII bottles?
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Re: Westvletern XII

Post by berley » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:04 pm

LiverDance wrote:Is there yeast in the XII bottles?
Yeah, I believe so. Not sure if he has access to that, but it'd definitely be a possibility if he does.

Also, I'm not sure if they add a different yeast when bottling...? Or add the same yeast as they fermented with... or something else.

I probably shouldn't have tried to answer this thread.
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Re: Westvletern XII

Post by LiverDance » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:08 pm

berley wrote:
LiverDance wrote:Is there yeast in the XII bottles?
Yeah, I believe so. Not sure if he has access to that, but it'd definitely be a possibility if he does.

Also, I'm not sure if they add a different yeast when bottling...? Or add the same yeast as they fermented with... or something else.

I probably shouldn't have tried to answer this thread.
:lol: i'm just asking cause I have a bottle so i'll probably try and harvest it.
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Re: Westvletern XII

Post by BBrianBoogie » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:27 pm

WY3787 is the strain used by Westvleteren, not sure about the WL equivalent. Agreed on the grain/hop bill, it's a bit busy.

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