60 minutes in the Dark - Black IPA *Do not brew again*

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:04 pm

Well I've studdied a few DFH 60 minute IPA hop builds and am use those 3 hops on a Black IPA. Below is what I came up with. Anyone have experience /w Black IPA's able to provide some insight?

60 minutes in the Dark.
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Grains (Steap 20 mins)
.25lb Carafa® Special II
.25lb Crystal 120 Malt (2-Row)
.5lb Flaked Barley
.25lb Pale Chocolate Malt

7lbs Dark LME
3lbs Amber LME

Hops
3/4oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ Boil (Each)
1/2oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ 30 mins (Each)
1/2oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ 45 mins (Each)
1/2oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ 50 mins (Each)
1/2oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ 55 mins (Each)
1/2oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ Flameout (Each)
1 tsp Irish Moss @ 45 mins

Original Gravity: 1.069
Final Gravity: 1.019
ABV: 6.56%
IBU: 92.46
SRM: 30.59

*** Old ***
Grains (Steap 20 mins)
.25lb Roasted Barley
.25lb Victory Malt
.5lb Flaked Wheat
.25lb Pale Chocolate Malt

9lbs Dark LME
2lbs Amber LME

Hops
.75oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ Boil
1/4oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ 30 mins
1/4oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ 45 mins
1/4oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ 50 mins
1/4oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ 55 mins
1/4oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo @ Flameout
1 tsp Irish Moss @ 45 mins

OG 1.076
FG 1.021
ABV 7.15%
IBU 77.20
SRM 31.84

sucanushie · Post by **sucanushie** » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:55 pm

I want to do a 60 min clone but can't find any Amarillo

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:24 am

Yeah it is why I haven't made mine yet.

gm- · Post by **gm-** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:27 am

Sounds good to me, maybe a tad too strong for my liking as I like my black IPA around 6%. Warrior, Simcoe and Amarillo sounds yummy, I've used cascade/centennial/citra before and it was pretty good, but my favourite was Summit/Amarillo combo.

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:25 am

I threw my order in with Dave. I don't expect it right away due to some hops not being available. Hoping this turns out, I'm really excited to try it.

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:50 pm

Looking like it will be later in the month once the hops arrive. However bonus! He has everything for The Forgotten Wit!!! Picking up the stuff Sunday!

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:23 pm

I just realized... I'm gonna need a bigger pot, or tone down the dark extract 4 lbs.

sucanushie · Post by **sucanushie** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:16 pm

Finally got some Amarillo... going to brew up a 60min this week

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:30 pm

You have a recipe? If not I have one for AG and another for extract. I'm hoping to hear from Dave soon to get this started, I've tweeked the above a bit to play with it some.

However that being said I need to drain a keg before I can brew. I'll be running on 4 kegs come Friday and can't seem to find any ball locks.

sucanushie · Post by **sucanushie** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:22 pm

I'm just doing a straight up 60 min clone...

Estimated OG: 1.070 SG
Estimated Color: 5.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 55.3 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.7 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
6065.97 g Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
174.88 g Amber Malt (22.0 SRM)
18.61 g Nugget [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min
12.29 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 35.0 min
12.29 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min
28.30 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop
14.00 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:55 pm

Are you adding anything at the 15,10, and 5 min marks?

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:59 pm

More late additions! Also check out continuous hopping. That hop bill will be nowhere near DFH 60 in hoppiness IMHO.

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Keith · Post by **Keith** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:26 pm

I can post up this 60 min DFH clone recipe once I get to y pc later.

sucanushie · Post by **sucanushie** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:33 am

It is continuous hopping I was just to lazy to add each addition in BS haha

The nugget at 60 is continuously hopped until 35 then the simcoe and and Amarillo are hopped until 0

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:46 am

Awesome!

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:51 pm

sucanushie wrote:It is continuous hopping I was just to lazy to add each addition in BS haha

The nugget at 60 is continuously hopped until 35 then the simcoe and and Amarillo are hopped until 0

That's much better.

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:39 am

After reading what nash posted about the Black IPA style, I'm going to revisit the above recipe and make a few adjustments.

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:31 am

I updated the recipe. Anyone able to give some input?

LiverDance · Post by **LiverDance** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:35 am

ibu's went down while the og went up, not sure if that was on purpose but the ibu's seems low to me. BU:GU ratio is at .68 I'd have it closer to 1

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:55 am

What's BU:GU ?

Post by **mr x** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:59 am

Bitterness units / Gravity units.

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jeffsmith · Post by **jeffsmith** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:05 pm

LiverDance wrote:ibu's went down while the og went up, not sure if that was on purpose but the ibu's seems low to me. BU:GU ratio is at .68 I'd have it closer to 1

Agreed, I'd shoot for 80-90IBU. If you are doing a partial boil and then topping up with water I'd probably shoot for closer to 100.

Houblon34 · Post by **Houblon34** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:09 pm

This may sound like a noob question, but when you write "1/4oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo", do you mean 1/4oz of each? In other words you'll have one addition of 2.25 oz and 5 additions of 3/4oz?

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:15 pm

Houblon34 wrote:This may sound like a noob question, but when you write "1/4oz Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo", do you mean 1/4oz of each? In other words you'll have one addition of 2.25 oz and 5 additions of 3/4oz?

yep of each.

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:16 pm

mr x wrote:Bitterness units / Gravity units.

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Do you just take the difference between the OG and FG?

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