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Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:01 pm

My first attempt at a custom (non-kit) recipe. A simple hefeweizen. Suggestions and comments welcome!

Batch Size: 1 gallon
Predicted OG: 1.057
Predicted FG: 1.015
Predicted IBU: 13.1
Predicted SRM: 4.8
Predicted ABV: 5.7%

Grain Bill
1.2 lbs German Pilsner Malt
1.2 lbs Wheat Malt

Hop Schedule
0.12 oz Hallertau (AA 6.7%) @ 60 min

Yeast: 1/5 pkg Lallemand Danstar Munich Wheat Ale, dry pitch

Mash @ 152°F for 60 minutes
Batch sparge @ 170°F
Boil 60 minutes
Ferment @ ~65°F for ~2 weeks

**Note: somehow my actual OG was 1.090!! Not on purpose and don't know why, but I welcome the extra ABV. I tasted the wort and it is definitely sweet**
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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by Keggermeister » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:24 pm

Love me some Hefeweizen!
HATE Tuckamore! I remember walking ON TOP of 5 foot deep tuckamore for about 100 meters while trekking the long range mountains in NflD. I fell into it once and my buddy had to pull me out.
It was the only way through for kilometers, and not a moose path to be seen.
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Post by mr x » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:26 pm

That's going be a low IBU for that gravity.

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by redoubt » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:34 pm

GasMD30 wrote:My first attempt at a custom (non-kit) recipe. A simple hefeweizen. Suggestions and comments welcome!

Batch Size: 1 gallon
Predicted OG: 1.057
Predicted FG: 1.015
Predicted IBU: 13.1
Predicted SRM: 4.8
Predicted ABV: 5.7%

Grain Bill
1.2 lbs German Pilsner Malt
1.2 lbs Wheat Malt

Hop Schedule
0.12 oz Hallertau (AA 6.7%) @ 60 min

Yeast: 1/5 pkg Lallemand Danstar Munich Wheat Ale, dry pitch

Mash @ 152°F for 60 minutes
Batch sparge @ 170°F
Boil 60 minutes
Ferment @ ~65°F for ~2 weeks

**Note: somehow my actual OG was 1.090!! Not on purpose and don't know why, but I welcome the extra ABV. I tasted the wort and it is definitely sweet**

Good stuff - hefeweizens are tasty! :)

Ingredients look good. Not sure about the 1 gal batch, but for a 5 gal batch, a 90 minute boil is a bit better, as it reduces potential DMS that is sometimes seen from the pilsner malt.

The actual OG being high...you may have under-estimated your brew system's efficiency. It'll take a couple brews before you know more accurately what your efficiency is.

Let us know how it turns out!

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:49 pm

Thanks redoubt, I did read about DMS being an issue. I will definitely take it into consideration next batch.

In terms of the high OG, would you guys recommend decreasing the quantities in my grain bill?
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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by redoubt » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:54 pm

GasMD30 wrote:Thanks redoubt, I did read about DMS being an issue. I will definitely take it into consideration next batch.

In terms of the high OG, would you guys recommend decreasing the quantities in my grain bill?
If you're trying to hit your target, you could likely reduce some of the grain bill.

Are you using brewing software like BeerSmith? If so, there's some numbers you can tinker with to work out your efficiency, and that'll help you adjust recipes, etc.

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by Tony L » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:55 pm

Also you could add a little more water and make more beer. Are you sure about your gravity. Let me plug in into Promash to see.
I get 1070 with a 80% efficiency for a 1 gallon batch. I usually only get 65 to 705 efficiency on my 5 gallon batches



Looks like prime hunting ground there, Nick. Nice well worn path too. Around my parts we call that scrub a barren. this crap is a little harder to walk on.

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:58 pm

No I'm not using BeerSmith. I am, however, using an iPad app called Brew Log. I am between computers.

And I would call it scrub or barren too, Tuckamore to me is a windswept tree, often low growing.
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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by Tony L » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:03 pm

[quote="GasMD30"

And I would call it scrub or barren too, Tuckamore to me is a windswept tree, often low growing.[/quote]

Exactly. We'll teach these mainlanders the right terminology for Nfld, :lol:

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:14 pm

Yes b'y
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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by redoubt » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:19 pm

Okay, Tony, I've been dying to ask but now that there's a picture of you on a moose... *Is* that you on the moose in your profile pic?

Sorry to ask this on your thread, Gas, but I did want to know! Also, I second Tony in suggesting more water = more beer. :D

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:29 pm

[quote="Tony L"]Also you could add a little more water and make more beer. Are you sure about your gravity. Let me plug in into Promash to see.
I get 1070 with a 80% efficiency for a 1 gallon batch. I usually only get 65 to 705 efficiency on my 5 gallon batches

Hmmm, 1070, maybe I am just way too efficient?

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by Keggermeister » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:47 pm

Tony L wrote:Also you could add a little more water and make more beer. Are you sure about your gravity. Let me plug in into Promash to see.
I get 1070 with a 80% efficiency for a 1 gallon batch. I usually only get 65 to 705 efficiency on my 5 gallon batches



Looks like prime hunting ground there, Nick. Nice well worn path too. Around my parts we call that scrub a barren. this crap is a little harder to walk on.
That isn't a pic of the Tuck i was stuck in. Wasn't in a picture taking mood then! Nice looking moose!

I agree with Tony's idea to dilute with water. A little dry hopping will help too.
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Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:27 am

Most likely that your volume came out a bit lower than you expected
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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by Tony L » Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:15 am

redoubt wrote:Okay, Tony, I've been dying to ask but now that there's a picture of you on a moose... *Is* that you on the moose in your profile pic?
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I would say Liam is right, perhaps you boiled away enough to get that high an efficiency, especially if you only started with 1 gallon of water... or did you end up with 1 gallon of beer in the fermenter?

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by redoubt » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:54 am

Ah, yes, Liam is likely right.

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:54 am

Actually I had more than a gallon of wort left over after the boil. Enough to fill a large glass and my hydrometer and still fill my fermenter. I have noticed over the past few days that my trub seems quite thick so maybe a significant amount of the volume was suspended particulates? Its still bubbling slowly, so I plan to check the gravity this saturday (day 7)
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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:57 pm

I think I figured out my OG problem... My trub is very thick, I probably didn't shock chill it enough and I have too much cold break material in it?!
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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by redoubt » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:15 pm

GasMD30 wrote:I think I figured out my OG problem... My trub is very thick, I probably didn't shock chill it enough and I have too much cold break material in it?!
I'll happily defer to someone with more experience and wisdom than I have, but I'm not sure that trub affects OG as it's not in solution. Again, not an expert and could very well be very wrong on that, so wait for someone else to confirm or disconfirm!

Does the app you use to plan your recipes allow you to figure out your mash efficiency and play with numbers a bit? Our gravities and volumes were all kinds of hinky until I played around a bunch with the numbers in BeerSmith to sort out exactly our boil-off rate, trub loss, mash efficiency, etc. It may just be a matter of messing with numbers for the next few brews to dial in your system so you can better predict what your OG's going to be. All a PITA but worth it in the end for consistency if nothing else.

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Post by redoubt » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:16 pm

PS: Didn't know what tuckamore was until this thread (effin' Mainlanders, I know), but love the name for a nanobrewery.

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Post by CorneliusAlphonse » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:29 pm

The trub could affect it because it would make the actual liquid volume less
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Post by GuingesRock » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:33 pm

But, doesn't the trub soak up sugar as well as water? The amount of wort will be less because the trub has soaked up some, but the concentration of sugar in the wort should be the same, even if you just get a cup full. Like Kirsten ...I defer to the wise and more experienced.
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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:20 am

What I think is that the trub has reduced my actual volume while maintaining my 1 gallon total. Therefore the concentration of sugars would be higher. C1V1 = C2V2
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Post by GuingesRock » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:57 pm

Now it's a draw. Two in each camp :)

Main thing is how the beer tastes though. I think it'll be good.

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Re: Tuckamore Hefeweizen

Post by GasMD30 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:53 am

I'm bottling this weekend, looks like the bubbling has almost stopped. Any suggestions for bottling/priming? I'm gonna go by this nomogram by John Palmer http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter11-4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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