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2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:41 pm
by Keith
Been a while since I've brewed a DIPA and figure it's time to get on it. I feel good about the below. Just wondering everyone's thoughts. This is also a 20 gallon batch. Volume is so high to compensate for the loss to hops. BTW this is also my advent entry :) :rockin:

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Recipe: Hoppily Every After DIPA Topaz\Cascade
Brewer: Keith Forbes
Asst Brewer:
Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0) og 1.090
mash temp 150

1.022 trub sample.

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 122.50 l
Post Boil Volume: 112.32 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 95.00 l
Bottling Volume: 80.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.070 SG
Estimated Color: 8.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 79.3 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 82.7 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
141.12 l DIPA Water 1 -
59.22 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins Water Agent 2 -
37.85 g Epsom Salt (MgSO4) (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 3 -
7.02 g Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 4 -
3.15 g Salt (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 5 -
50 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) CDN (2.0 SRM) Grain 6 77.2 %
6 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 30L (30.0 SRM) Grain 7 9.3 %
4 lbs Melanoiden Malt (20.0 SRM) Grain 8 6.2 %
1 lbs 12.0 oz Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 9 2.7 %
3 lbs Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 10 4.6 %
3.00 oz Topaz [16.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 11 29.1 IBUs
8.00 oz Cascade [6.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 12 5.7 IBUs
8.00 oz Topaz [16.20 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 13 15.5 IBUs
16.00 oz Cascade [6.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 10.0 Hop 14 10.4 IBUs
10.50 oz Topaz [16.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 10.0 Hop 15 18.5 IBUs
6.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 16 -
10.50 oz Cascade [6.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 17 0.0 IBUs
8.00 oz Topaz [16.20 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 18 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: BIAB, Light Body
Total Grain Weight: 64 lbs 12.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Saccharification Add 141.12 l of water at 155.8 F 147.9 F 90 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min

Sparge: If steeping, remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Notes:
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Re: Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:53 pm
by GuingesRock
You can get rid of the melanoidin and a lot of that crystal by using about 50% Munich 11 which is melanoidin rich. I think that will make a nicer beer. I tried using melanoidin before but prefer lots of munich. Have you had luck with melanoidin malt? Why use Canadian 2-row when you can get Marris Otter for close to the same price. Don't compromise on ingredients especially if you are only saving a tiny amount of money. I don't like Vienna much. I think it is ok in its place though. Don’t dry hop more than 3 days …4 days at the most.

:rocky:

:D

:cheers2:

Re: Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:55 am
by Keith
I actually use Superior Pale malt now. Really enjoy using crystal 30 and melanoidin malt. Feel I know the flavor profile well enough to get my desired results. Plus Munich, melanoidin and crystal have different characteristics, not sure I could replicate using Munich alone. Big reason in posting was due to using 2 lbs of a 16.2% AA hop in late/ dry hops. Normally all my late additions are under 10%AA.

Re: Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:00 am
by GuingesRock
I don't think high AA is a problem for late additions. I've used a lot of Galaxy that way many times and done well with that, and that's around the same AA as Topaz.

Re: Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:30 am
by Keith
Glad to hear. Thx. I'm looking forward to this beer.

Re: Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:01 am
by Broob
Keith wrote:Glad to hear. Thx. I'm looking forward to this beer.
I'm looking forward to this one as well!

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:03 pm
by Keith
Will be kegging this in hopefully 12 days.

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:39 pm
by Bowserm
How do you BIAB 64 lbs of grain? I assume you have to use a pulley system. There is no way you could do that on your own. Maybe you are weight lifter?

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:01 pm
by Jimmy
Bowserm wrote:How do you BIAB 64 lbs of grain? I assume you have to use a pulley system. There is no way you could do that on your own. Maybe you are weight lifter?
Cooler BIAB - there's a video I posted of it on here in the BIAB FAQ thread.

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:26 pm
by Keith
Profile I select in beersmith was biab due to no sparge. Just easier this way.

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:34 pm
by Bowserm
Cooler BIAB.... I have been looking into that.
I am sure it's way easier than doing it in pot, pulling out and squeezing it.

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:47 pm
by Keith
Bowserm wrote:Cooler BIAB.... I have been looking into that.
I am sure it's way easier than doing it in pot, pulling out and squeezing it.
Done a ton of it. It's easy and cleanup is a breeze. In this setup however I have a bazooka screen.

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:12 pm
by Keith
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look at the trub. And to think I had 10 liters left in the kettle.

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:23 pm
by Keith
Bumping this up. This is my Advent Beer. I think mine is today...

Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:26 pm
by LiverDance
It's tomorrow


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Re: 2015 Advent - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Edition

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:27 pm
by Keith
Ahh. That works too. Was originally 5b.

Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:12 pm
by LiverDance
Great iIPA Keith. Lots of interesting flavors from the topaz hops.


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Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:21 pm
by mumblecrunch
Had this tonight. Possibly not a good idea to have it right after the 10% saison, but whatever I can do to avoid shovelling the driveway...

My bottle was pretty flat for starters, so I may not be tasting it as intended. I find it a touch dry for an IIPA and would prefer a little more malt sweetness. That said, it's got a wicked aroma, the alcohol level (which I'm assuming is at least 7.5%) is well-masked, I think the bitterness is right around where it should be and there are definitely some interesting hop flavors. I'm not sure Topaz is my favorite hop, but I think I have a pretty good idea of what it's like now. Thanks for the brew!!

Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:38 pm
by Keith
Beer finished around 7.8%. Carbonation issue might be seen on a few bottles. Filled from the keg warm and had some foaming issues on the first few bottles. As for the dryness I always mash low on my hoppy beers. I prefer a dry hop forward beer, with a low malt presence. Just my personal preference.

Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:41 pm
by pet lion
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Hazy, golden amber. Tropical fruit and grass on the nose. Good malt build. I'm feeling the Topaz hops gives off too much grassiness for my threshold (low for that flavour). Good beer but I am not I love with the Topaz hop variety.

Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:12 pm
by Broob
I liked this one. I like a dry IPA. Thought I got a hint of lemon zest, not sure though

Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:34 pm
by Buccaneer
My bottle was also very weakly carbonated. Having said that, the flavours were excellent. The glass magically drained itself quite quickly. :)

Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:19 pm
by amartin
I drank mine a few weeks ago, since I was impatient and wanted to get to it before the hops faded. I don't remember the carbonation being too low.

I like how it was dried out, and hop forward. I'm generally not a huge fan of double IPAs because they so often have more malt sweetness than I like (Propeller, Garrison, St Ambroise). I thought the balance was more in line with Unfiltered, Bad Apple, and Rubbertoe's DIPA from last year.

Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:52 pm
by Highland Brewer
first time trying the Topaz and honestly not a fan. Carbonation was just right. Might take a few goes at it to get a taste for the Topaz. Liked the balance and dryness and would have tried a second.

Re: 2015 Advent- Dec 29th - Hoppily Ever After - Topaz Editi

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:48 am
by Woody
I'm in the mood for an IIPA so I skipped a few as I'm still behind. Great aroma pouring into the glass. I like my IIPA's dry and this doesn't disappoint. Carbonation is good with a nice head. This bitterness is nice and this glass is going quite fast. Thanks!