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Recipe: TroHOPicALE IPA
Brewer: Jeff
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)
Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 8.00 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.87 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.062 SG
Estimated Color: 5.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 68.4 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 85.1 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.0 %
12 lbs 8.8 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 96.0 %
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast 9 -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [15.60 %] - Boil 60. Hop 3 45.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 10.0 m Hop 4 10.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 mi Hop 5 5.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 mi Hop 7 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 6.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Mash Schedule: BIAB, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 1.1 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Saccharification Add 37.03 qt of water at 159.6 F 152.1 F 75 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min
Sparge: Remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Notes:


I'm going for a fruity/tropical tasting IPA. I've tried used Amarillo, Simcoe and Calypso but I want to give this hops a go. Anyone use this combo before?

Instead of 2 row, I'd use MO. I'd have 30% munich 11 in there too, and cut back on the 2-row to compensate. That'd make the malt side more interesting and give the beer a nice orange/red colour. 2-row and the small amount of C40 might not give a very interesting malt profile. I'm glad you are not using too much C40.

With the malt side built, then you can go crazy with the hops. Hop choice ...it's hard to go wrong with that. Glad you are dry hopping. With my late hopping I have a thing for 2 1/2 minutes. At one point I couldn't decide if I liked 2 min or 3 min more so went with that. I'll also do 10 and 15 minute additions with that. I don't do flameout any more. I dry hop for 3 days only.

Conan yeast is always nice. Especially if you are going for fruit flavours. US-05 would be fine but not so interesting. Fruity esters are an English Ale thing. Conan is an old English Ale yeast. With an American IPA/APA, you seem to have the option of using either English or US yeast.

There's no rights and wrongs with any of this. I'm telling you what I like. What you like may be totally different and just as good or better.

The hop combo looks good. I don't know what others do but I often mash for light body on my IPAs and APAs. Mash temp somewhere in the region of 148-150. I like my hoppy beers dry. Like Mark said, this is what I like, feel free to do whatever you like!

I didn't consider the body of the beer. I'll take your advice as I like a dry IPA.

I may give Marris Otter a whirl. So you use MO 70% and 30% Munich Malt?

I'm thinking 85%MO/15%Munich

Halifax_Jeff wrote: I may give Marris Otter a whirl. So you use MO 70% and 30% Munich Malt?

Yes. Have your bit of C40 in there too.

Halifax_Jeff wrote:Recipe: TroHOPicALE IPA
Brewer: Jeff
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)
Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 8.00 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.87 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.062 SG
Estimated Color: 5.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 68.4 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 85.1 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.0 %
12 lbs 8.8 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 96.0 %
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast 9 -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [15.60 %] - Boil 60. Hop 3 45.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 10.0 m Hop 4 10.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 mi Hop 5 5.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 mi Hop 7 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 6.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Mash Schedule: BIAB, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 1.1 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Saccharification Add 37.03 qt of water at 159.6 F 152.1 F 75 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min
Sparge: Remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Notes:


I'm going for a fruity/tropical tasting IPA. I've tried used Amarillo, Simcoe and Calypso but I want to give this hops a go. Anyone use this combo before?

Few things I'd change personally.
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [15.60 %] - Boil 60. Hop 3 45.3 IBUs
Drop that to about .7oz. 45 IBU will be overly bitter in a 65 IBU beer. I typically aim for 20-30 IBU myself. Last batch was 22 IBU bittering and it's delicious.
If you want a nice big flavor, triple your flame out (0 min) additions to 3oz each.
Lastly drop your mash to 147F, add 6oz of carapils your body and head retention while maintaining a crispness to your beer.

Keith wrote:

Halifax_Jeff wrote:Recipe: TroHOPicALE IPA
Brewer: Jeff
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)
Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 8.00 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.87 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.062 SG
Estimated Color: 5.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 68.4 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 85.1 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.0 %
12 lbs 8.8 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 96.0 %
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast 9 -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [15.60 %] - Boil 60. Hop 3 45.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 10.0 m Hop 4 10.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 mi Hop 5 5.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 mi Hop 7 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 6.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Mash Schedule: BIAB, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 1.1 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Saccharification Add 37.03 qt of water at 159.6 F 152.1 F 75 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min
Sparge: Remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Notes:


I'm going for a fruity/tropical tasting IPA. I've tried used Amarillo, Simcoe and Calypso but I want to give this hops a go. Anyone use this combo before?

Few things I'd change personally.
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [15.60 %] - Boil 60. Hop 3 45.3 IBUs
Drop that to about .7oz. 45 IBU will be overly bitter in a 65 IBU beer. I typically aim for 20-30 IBU myself. Last batch was 22 IBU bittering and it's delicious.
If you want a nice big flavor, triple your flame out (0 min) additions to 3oz each.
Lastly drop your mash to 147F, add 6oz of carapils your body and head retention while maintaining a crispness to your beer.

I have to disagree with you Keith, drying out the beer with a lower mash temperature and then adding back carapils is redundant. Carapils only adds body and head retention by adding additional unfermentable dextrins, which can be accomplished by just not lowering the mash temperature.

amartin wrote:

Keith wrote:

Halifax_Jeff wrote:Recipe: TroHOPicALE IPA
Brewer: Jeff
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)
Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 8.00 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.87 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.062 SG
Estimated Color: 5.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 68.4 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 85.1 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.0 %
12 lbs 8.8 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 96.0 %
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35. Yeast 9 -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [15.60 %] - Boil 60. Hop 3 45.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 10.0 m Hop 4 10.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 mi Hop 5 5.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 mi Hop 7 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 6.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Mash Schedule: BIAB, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 1.1 oz
----------------------------
Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Saccharification Add 37.03 qt of water at 159.6 F 152.1 F 75 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min
Sparge: Remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Notes:


I'm going for a fruity/tropical tasting IPA. I've tried used Amarillo, Simcoe and Calypso but I want to give this hops a go. Anyone use this combo before?

Few things I'd change personally.
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [15.60 %] - Boil 60. Hop 3 45.3 IBUs
Drop that to about .7oz. 45 IBU will be overly bitter in a 65 IBU beer. I typically aim for 20-30 IBU myself. Last batch was 22 IBU bittering and it's delicious.
If you want a nice big flavor, triple your flame out (0 min) additions to 3oz each.
Lastly drop your mash to 147F, add 6oz of carapils your body and head retention while maintaining a crispness to your beer.

I have to disagree with you Keith, drying out the beer with a lower mash temperature and then adding back carapils is redundant. Carapils only adds body and head retention by adding additional unfermentable dextrins, which can be accomplished by just not lowering the mash temperature.

Sure it is adding additional unfermentables. But they are limited. Personally I mash low, I get the crisp character to my beer that I like, still get the body and head retention from a small addition of carapils, and don't feel after 2-3 beers I've just ate a meal. However with that being said this has become a habit of mine, I do it with just about all my beers. I should try to brew a batch without it and see what the differences are.

I am taking all of this into consideration.

Keith, I'd like to triple those late additions... but damn that'll be an expensive brew haha

Halifax_Jeff wrote:I am taking all of this into consideration.

Keith, I'd like to triple those late additions... but damn that'll be an expensive brew haha

Still not NSLC expensive for a wicked tasty beer that you just can't get enough of! But even then. Double them up, and whirl pool for 5 mins before you start your chill!
I'm normally about 8-10oz per 5gallons of hops myself in a IPA. APA I'm about 6-7oz. DIPA I'm 1-1.5lbs

I think 5oz of late hops and 2oz of dry hops will give you plenty of hop flavour and aroma. For example I used 3oz of late hops and 3oz of dry hops in my last IPA and I was happy with it. The Red IPA that I am bottling today has 4oz of late hops and 2oz of dry hops. You can always taste a sample after fermentation and increase the amount of dry hops if you think it needs it.

Take all this for what it's worth - ultimately you will find out what you like after you've tried it both ways!

This is what I decided on and I'll go on from there for my next brew. I think I just have to try out a few things before I can nail down specifics about what works and what doesn't for me. I'm going to give MO and Munich a go and try an english ale yeast to see how things turn out. In the end its beer and I know it'll find a good home! Thanks for the input guys!


Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 7.89 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.76 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 8.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 63.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 85.1 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name
8 lbs 15.9 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 73.0 %
2 lbs 13.3 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) 23.0 %
7.9 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) 4.0 %

0.56 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60. Hop 23.1 IBUs
1.13 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 10.0 min 14.0 IBUs
1.13 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 10.0 m 11.9 IBUs
1.13 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 5.0 mi 6.6 IBUs
1.13 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min 7.7 IBUs
1.10 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 mi 0.0 IBUs
1.10 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Boil 0.0 min 0.0 IBUs
1.10 oz Mosaic [11.70 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days 0.0 IBUs
1.10 oz Falconers Flight [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 0.0 IBUs

1.1 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast

Mash Schedule: BIAB, Light Body
Total Grain Weight: 12 lbs 5.1 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Saccharification Add 38.04 qt of water at 155.0 F 147.9 F 90 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min

When I use US-05, I sprinkle it dry on the surface, but I use 2 packs for a single batch and 4 packs for 10 gal. Others rehydrate.

You are going to enjoy this beer very much.

edit: I thought it said 05, but it says 04. Not sure about using 04 in this one but you could give it a shot. I'm not a big fan of 04.

Looks good Jeff. As for the yeast, 1 package dry yeast sprinkled on is suffice. I personally weigh out 7 grams for beers around 5% and have been successful every time. And over half of the 500 gram brick is gone.

GuingesRock wrote:When I use US-05, I sprinkle it dry on the surface, but I use 2 packs for a single batch and 4 packs for 10 gal. Others rehydrate.

You are going to enjoy this beer very much.

edit: I thought it said 05, but it says 04. Not sure about using 04 in this one but you could give it a shot. I'm not a big fan of 04.

Yeast is still a last minute call... but I'll just pitch one package I think. Trying to keep things fairly simple and find a baseline to start from.

I went with us-05 and drinking it now. It turned out great and I'm very happy with it. Smells, looks and tastes great.

Halifax_Jeff wrote:I went with us-05 and drinking it now. It turned out great and I'm very happy with it. Smells, looks and tastes great.

Halifax_Jeff wrote:I went with us-05 and drinking it now. It turned out great and I'm very happy with it. Smells, looks and tastes great.

That's what counts!

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Halifax_Jeff wrote:I went with us-05 and drinking it now. It turned out great and I'm very happy with it. Smells, looks and tastes great.

Nothing wrong with US-05. It makes great IPAs.

sleepyjamie wrote:

Halifax_Jeff wrote:I went with us-05 and drinking it now. It turned out great and I'm very happy with it. Smells, looks and tastes great.

Nothing wrong with US-05. It makes great IPAs.

Yep. I buy it by the brick because I use so much of it.

Jimmy wrote:

sleepyjamie wrote:

Halifax_Jeff wrote:I went with us-05 and drinking it now. It turned out great and I'm very happy with it. Smells, looks and tastes great.

Nothing wrong with US-05. It makes great IPAs.

Yep. I buy it by the brick because I use so much of it.

This. I also bought us04 but only use it from time to time.