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Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 8:34 pm
by whitnes10
I've been searching for a Partial Mash clone of Boxcutter IPA, but haven't come across one yet.

Anyone know of one or have one similar floating around out there?

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 8:56 pm
by GAM
10kghops and 10kg malt!!!

Sandy

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 9:21 am
by Woody
GAM wrote:10kghops and 10kg malt!!!

Sandy
:stupid: It's one damn fine beer. I'm thinking only 2 men know that recipe. Jeff and Nash.

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:10 pm
by whitnes10
GAM wrote:10kghops and 10kg malt!!!

Sandy
So how does that work? I've never made a beer of that sort. Any specific type of malt and hop that will match the flavor of the Boxcutter? No grains whatsoever? and US-05 for the yeast?

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:11 pm
by whitnes10
Also, are those amounts for a 5gal batch?

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:38 pm
by GAM
whitnes10 wrote:
GAM wrote:10kghops and 10kg malt!!!

Sandy
So how does that work? I've never made a beer of that sort. Any specific type of malt and hop that will match the flavor of the Boxcutter? No grains whatsoever? and US-05 for the yeast?
Sorry you don't know me, that's sarcasm. a shot at Jeff and Greg.

Cutter in an interesting beer and may take several attempt to even get to the ball park.

I would approach Jeff (super nice guy) and ask for some guidance. I make IPA's but not like this.

Sandy

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 10:29 am
by whitnes10
I've mad a few IPA's (Noble Grape Recipes with a twist of my own) but never got close to something like Boxcutter or Propeller Double IPA (my two favourites locally).

So I just brewed this recipe: http://beerrecipes.org/showrecipe.php?recipeid=1254" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (I did also add some Citra hops during late boil and dry hop)
Tried it for the first time last night and it was awesome (closest i've got to Propeller Double IPA)! Citrusy flavour, with a bitter finish. Might even just make this one again. First beer in a while I can say I'm 100% happy with. Could even take this recipe and play around with it a bit.

Any thoughts on a good way to change it slightly?

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:14 pm
by HPhunter
I'd say the best way to clone this recipe is to bring a sleeping bag, and brew it with me? Then try to piece it all back together the next day with an epic Hang over!
Hit me up if you wanna help brew.

And yes you will help mash out, and and pitch many boxes of hops, on top of getting to hang out.
Jeff
Hitmeup.com

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:31 pm
by dexter
HPhunter wrote:I'd say the best way to clone this recipe is to bring a sleeping bag, and brew it with me? Then try to piece it all back together the next day with an epic Hang over!
Hit me up if you wanna help brew.

And yes you will help mash out, and and pitch many boxes of hops, on top of getting to hang out.
Jeff
Hitmeup.com
That's a hell of an offer!

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:30 am
by GAM
OOH help with mash out. That's taking out the mash.

S

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:18 pm
by Keith
HPhunter wrote:I'd say the best way to clone this recipe is to bring a sleeping bag, and brew it with me? Then try to piece it all back together the next day with an epic Hang over!
Hit me up if you wanna help brew.

And yes you will help mash out, and and pitch many boxes of hops, on top of getting to hang out.
Jeff
Hitmeup.com
Good luck piecing it back together haha, however it's a great time brewing with Jeff. And you'll love scooping spent grains, especially when it gets to the bottom haha.

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:30 pm
by whitnes10
Jeff are you a Noble Grape guy? Every time I go in there, they always mention to try and get in touch with you. I don't know, but I feel like you may have helped me out a few times a few years back at the layton Park/Bayers Lake location. I don't know if you are the guy I'm thinking of, but I haven't seen this person around that store in a few years now.

As for brewing with you, I'd love to try it out sometime, but I know it's going to be tough, I have a little addition to our family, so time is sparse. My own at home brewing has slowed down significantly. But that last batch that I mentioned earlier turned out awesome!

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:34 am
by jacinthebox
whitnes10 wrote:Jeff are you a Noble Grape guy? Every time I go in there, they always mention to try and get in touch with you. I don't know, but I feel like you may have helped me out a few times a few years back at the layton Park/Bayers Lake location. I don't know if you are the guy I'm thinking of, but I haven't seen this person around that store in a few years now.

As for brewing with you, I'd love to try it out sometime, but I know it's going to be tough, I have a little addition to our family, so time is sparse. My own at home brewing has slowed down significantly. But that last batch that I mentioned earlier turned out awesome!
That would be Jonathan...he was running the "Best Case" program for Noble...he is also brewing for Sober Island Brewing now.

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:42 am
by whitnes10
Alright, I wasn't sure, just thought I'd see! Thanks

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:17 pm
by whitnes10
VICTORY DIRT WOLF DOUBLE IPA CLONE
Recipe Type: All Grain
Yeast: Calf. Ale WLP001
Yeast Starter: Yes - 1.6L
Additional Yeast or Yeast Starter: Stir Plate for 36 hrs.
Batch Size (Gallons): 5.5
Original Gravity: 1.078
Final Gravity: 1.005
IBU: 142
Boiling Time (Minutes): 65
Color: 3
Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 7-8
Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 7
Tasting Notes: Very Hoppy-- pineapple, grapefruit, piney-- Light Malt flavor and Delicious !

Grains:
16# Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt
1.5# Carapils
Hops:
1.0 oz Chinook @65
1.0 oz Simcoe @ 40
1.0 oz Mosaic @25
1.0 oz Citra @25
1.0 oz Mosaic @10
1.0 oz Citra @10
1.0 oz Citra @ 1
(*Irish Moss @ 15)
2.0 oz Citra-- Dry Hop for 7 days

Is there a way to change this recipe around (all grain) to a partial mash?

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:00 pm
by darciandjenn
Do you have Beersmith? You can plug all of this in and then use it to substitute malt extract for the mashed grains. If I were you, I'd find the lightest DME possible (Dave @ Everwood stocks extra light pilsner extract, as does MB&W, I believe). The LME at NG has a portion of crystal malts in it that will dramatically affect the maltiness of the beer.

An extract brew is never going to be exactly the same as an AG recipe, the colour will always be darker and the wort less fermentable, but it could turn out really great all the same.

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:01 pm
by darciandjenn
Also, you could fire an email off to Dave and he'd probably convert this recipe for you. He's very helpful like that :)

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:31 pm
by whitnes10
Hey thanks! By chance do you have Dave's contact? I'm new to this forum and all these names. Thanks again!

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:02 pm
by whitnes10
[quote="darciandjenn"]Do you have Beersmith? You can plug all of this in and then use it to substitute malt extract for the mashed grains. If I were you, I'd find the lightest DME possible (Dave @ Everwood stocks extra light pilsner extract, as does MB&W, I believe). The LME at NG has a portion of crystal malts in it that will dramatically affect the maltiness of the beer.

I just signed on to BeerSmith, so I'll give it a try, though I'm not really familiar with making my own thing. To this point I've alway stuck to a recipe and just really changed up hops.

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:56 am
by darciandjenn

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:23 am
by whitnes10
darciandjenn wrote:http://www.everwoodavebrewshop.com/

Good luck :)
Emailed Dave this morning have have already heard back, he's going to do up the conversion for me! Thanks for the suggestion!

-Stew

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:46 pm
by whitnes10
darciandjenn wrote:Do you have Beersmith? You can plug all of this in and then use it to substitute malt extract for the mashed grains. If I were you, I'd find the lightest DME possible (Dave @ Everwood stocks extra light pilsner extract, as does MB&W, I believe). The LME at NG has a portion of crystal malts in it that will dramatically affect the maltiness of the beer.

An extract brew is never going to be exactly the same as an AG recipe, the colour will always be darker and the wort less fermentable, but it could turn out really great all the same.
It's been a while, but I did make a batch after I converted it with BeerSmith. Ended up being my most expensive batch of brew, but it was by far and none THE BEST BEER I've ever made!!! It was awesome, and it's the first beer I've legitimately said that about. Will be brewing it again so it is ready for the Christmas!

I'm now looking at brewing a Pineapple IPA, so I'm currently doing research on it.

Re: Bad Apple Boxcutter Clone

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:05 am
by darciandjenn
Glad to hear it! :)

I think there's a couple of threads on here about Pineapple IPAs so be sure to check that out.