First trial of panel.
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First trial of panel.
Been almost a year getting parts together but I was finally able to test my panel with a 4500W element, it's been quite the learning process...when I closed the breaker the first time the Fotek relay fused in the closed position to power was going to the outlet all the time. For the time being I just unplugged the socket to maintain temperature - I've got a couple Auber 40A SSR's coming. To cut power to the entire panel I did install a wimpy DPST toggle switch, which promptly melted, shorted, and cost me two fuses...the guys at Jentronics had a laugh at that. Melted plastic stinks...
It did heat up almost 9 gallons in a short amount of time though.
From what I've read so far a PID with a manual control is req'd for the BK so I've got the MYPID TD4 coming, but the REX C100's (w/ SSR output) seem to give accurate readings with a K-type tc. The Auber PID's are a little cost prohibitive.
I did pull one bonehead move and dry-fired my element...oops...started to smell 'hot' right away. Didn't seem to damage it - I did get the Camco ULWD that resists dry-firing.
It was my first all-grain attempt and it was a lot of fun (many thanks to MG for being my sherpa on this first time...)
Onward and upwards I s'pose.
It did heat up almost 9 gallons in a short amount of time though.
From what I've read so far a PID with a manual control is req'd for the BK so I've got the MYPID TD4 coming, but the REX C100's (w/ SSR output) seem to give accurate readings with a K-type tc. The Auber PID's are a little cost prohibitive.
I did pull one bonehead move and dry-fired my element...oops...started to smell 'hot' right away. Didn't seem to damage it - I did get the Camco ULWD that resists dry-firing.
It was my first all-grain attempt and it was a lot of fun (many thanks to MG for being my sherpa on this first time...)
Onward and upwards I s'pose.
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Re: First trial of panel.
Man, be careful! You put 220v through a household switch? That's crazy, you could die from that.
Do you have any contactors in your panel? These are like big relays with a 110v control coil for 22v load. Using them lets your panel facing switches all be 110v. I have one contactor for my power in / main switch, and one for the element.
Do you have any contactors in your panel? These are like big relays with a 110v control coil for 22v load. Using them lets your panel facing switches all be 110v. I have one contactor for my power in / main switch, and one for the element.
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Re: First trial of panel.
Definitely second Rob's contactor suggestion. With the element on you are putting ~20amps through that switch, you really have to make sure it's rated for that kind of load. By using a contactor just the load of the contactor coil goes through the switch. I use a contactor for power in as well as the element. In the case of an SSR failure the contactor lets you safely kill power to the element.
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Re: First trial of panel.
"From what I've read so far..."
I am building a panel too, and am making a paint of running every decision and every actual bit of wiring by an engineer (I am lucky enough to work at a university, but we've got a load on this forum). This stuff is way too dangerous to poke around on the Internet and do by trial and error.
I am building a panel too, and am making a paint of running every decision and every actual bit of wiring by an engineer (I am lucky enough to work at a university, but we've got a load on this forum). This stuff is way too dangerous to poke around on the Internet and do by trial and error.
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Re: First trial of panel.
Agreed, there is an electrical inspector in the office who I've been annoying for the past year.jason.loxton wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:42 am"From what I've read so far..."
I am building a panel too, and am making a paint of running every decision and every actual bit of wiring by an engineer (I am lucky enough to work at a university, but we've got a load on this forum). This stuff is way too dangerous to poke around on the Internet and do by trial and error.
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Re: First trial of panel.
I'll chalk up my decision as momentary idiocy...I've got fuses everywhere so those were the only things (in addition to the switch) I lost.MarkPower wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:28 amDefinitely second Rob's contactor suggestion. With the element on you are putting ~20amps through that switch, you really have to make sure it's rated for that kind of load. By using a contactor just the load of the contactor coil goes through the switch. I use a contactor for power in as well as the element. In the case of an SSR failure the contactor lets you safely kill power to the element.
I should've looked at something closer to this to kill the power to the panel.
http://www.leviton.com/en/products/3032-2
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Re: First trial of panel.
Hey, I didn't look through any other posts here, do you have any GFCI protection on here? That would be my first concern with a big stainless steel pot full of water haha
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