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How much

Post by GAM » Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:58 pm

I have a keggel and a big ass pot form Dave.

If I use the pot to heat water and pump to the keggel to mash how big a batch could I do?

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Re: How much

Post by RubberToe » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:59 am

Well that depends on the size of the pot and your grain bill.
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Re: How much

Post by GAM » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:35 am

I know but I was hoping some one had a setup like this and had done the math for me.

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Re: How much

Post by Keith » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:46 am

What volumes are the kegged and pot?
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Re: How much

Post by GAM » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:09 am

68l pot and 50l keg.

I'll do the math.

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Re: How much

Post by Keith » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:19 am

Should be able to do a 10 gal mash in that pot
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Re: How much

Post by Keith » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:20 am

Fermcap will be needed for the boil.
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Re: How much

Post by Keith » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:43 am

GAM wrote:68l pot and 50l keg.

I'll do the math.

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Here are some numbers.
My Mash tun = 66.2L, on a 40 liter batch I need 62.57 liter capacity, beer is estimated to be 6% abv.
Preboil volume from above is 49.82 liters, if you aim for a hard 38 liter batch you an get this down to just under 48 liters. Be do able but I'd fermcap the shit out of it. The above numbers will also account for 1.5 liters of Trub loss. :cheers2:
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Re: How much

Post by GAM » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:48 am

Do you sparge at all?

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Re: How much

Post by Keith » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:52 am

Only when I get up to 10 gallons of a 8.5% beer.
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Re: How much

Post by GAM » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:39 am

Beer Smith was taken off my work computer.

I can't find an equivalent but picture a keg with bag and grain, heat water in pot and transfer to keg.

Mash while heating sparge in pot. Put the sparge in buckets or what ever and drain kettle to pot. Add sparge to grain in keg and add to pot.

I am hoping for 60l in the pot. This is more of a whats the max exercise. It would 2 bodys to move that much wet grain or set up a pully.

Fermcap is a must.

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Re: How much

Post by Jimmy » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:07 am

I find this hard to follow, but wouldn't you be better off using the pot for your mash & boil, and the keggle for heating water?

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Re: How much

Post by LiverDance » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:48 am

Sandy if you have a pump you could do a brutus 20 style setup, you would only need the 1 pump and use gravity for the the other transfer

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Re: How much

Post by GAM » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:09 pm

Jimmy wrote:I find this hard to follow, but wouldn't you be better off using the pot for your mash & boil, and the keggle for heating water?
One burner and I don't want to lift hot water.

Just looking to maximize the gear I have.

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Re: How much

Post by Jimmy » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:13 pm

GAM wrote:
Jimmy wrote:I find this hard to follow, but wouldn't you be better off using the pot for your mash & boil, and the keggle for heating water?
One burner and I don't want to lift hot water.

Just looking to maximize the gear I have.

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Do you mean you don't have any connections on the keggle to attach the pump, but the pot does?

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Re: How much

Post by GAM » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:16 pm

LiverDance wrote:Sandy if you have a pump you could do a brutus 20 style setup, you would only need the 1 pump and use gravity for the the other transfer

http://www.alenuts.com/alenuts/brutus20.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very close but I want to only use one burner.

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Re: How much

Post by LiverDance » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:19 pm

You should be able to get away with that as well as long as the mash tun is insulated. Heat strike water in the kettle, transfer to the mash, then heat sparge water and recirculate until the temp evens out. Once that happens, drain everything to the kettle and boil. 2 vessels, 1 pump, 1 burner.
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Re: How much

Post by GAM » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:44 pm

That may work and if the mash does drop circ earlier.

Thanks all.

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Re: How much

Post by RubberToe » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:58 pm

You can use the pot and the pot only to BIAB 10 gallon batch, no sparge. It's the same size as my pot and I do it all the time. I usually start with 54L water for the average grain bill and top up a couple litres before the boil if it's a long boil or high gravity brew.
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Re: How much

Post by GAM » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:34 pm

Looking at pushing to 60l.

May not ever need it but can I?

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Re: How much

Post by RubberToe » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:08 pm

Theoretically if you do a low gravity brew and top up your kettle you could squeeze out a 60L batch with the one pot. I've thought about it but haven't tried it yet.

However you could still do what LD said regarding a Brutus 20 style brew.
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