Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
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Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
I have made this 3 times now to keep around for guests that are not into big and hoppy beers. Based on the weed feed and mow from Brewing Classic Styles, but with few additions.
45% Canadian 2 row
44% German Pils
5% Carahelles
5% Dexterose
1% Black malt (for little colour)
Mashed low (~66°C) for dry and crispy ale.
Hops
Tettnanger at 60 min up to 20 IBUs
Small Tettnanger addition at flameout (1/2 oz for 5 gal batch)
Fermented with US-05 at 18°C for clean flavour, becomes better with some lagering (~2 weeks or so).
I've usually kegged it and added some gelatin for a brilliantly clear beer. Most people don't realize is a homebrew (not sure that is a good thing or not, but it serves it's purpose)
45% Canadian 2 row
44% German Pils
5% Carahelles
5% Dexterose
1% Black malt (for little colour)
Mashed low (~66°C) for dry and crispy ale.
Hops
Tettnanger at 60 min up to 20 IBUs
Small Tettnanger addition at flameout (1/2 oz for 5 gal batch)
Fermented with US-05 at 18°C for clean flavour, becomes better with some lagering (~2 weeks or so).
I've usually kegged it and added some gelatin for a brilliantly clear beer. Most people don't realize is a homebrew (not sure that is a good thing or not, but it serves it's purpose)
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
Would you say more about how you use the gelatin please. How much and when you put it in, does it need to be mixed with anything, sanitation etc. Have you used any other finings in the keg? Is that the best one in your experience. Thanks
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
I fill the keg with the beer, place it in my keezer for 24 hours or so. After that I take a sanitized measuring cup, add a 2/3 cup of preboiled cooled water and mix in a teaspoon or so of unflavoured gelatin, the bulk barn has it in bulk quite cheap, but knox works fine as well. I then microwave it for 10-15 sec at a time up to 66°C to pasteurize. I then dump the gelatin mixture into the keg, give the keg a good swirl, connect the CO2 and purge. After 2 days or so you will have crystal clear beer, the first two pints will be cloudy, but after that, they will be extremely clear.GuingesRock wrote:Would you say more about how you use the gelatin please. How much and when you put it in, does it need to be mixed with anything, sanitation etc. Have you used any other finings in the keg? Is that the best one in your experience. Thanks
I've only used gelatin, maybe others can chip in with their experience on others such as isinglass. Gelatin works well, and is cheap and easy to use.
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
Love that name, I'll bet we all have a recipe for those people.
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
Thanks very much!gm- wrote:I fill the keg with the beer, place it in my keezer for 24 hours or so. After that I take a sanitized measuring cup, add a 2/3 cup of preboiled cooled water and mix in a teaspoon or so of unflavoured gelatin, the bulk barn has it in bulk quite cheap, but knox works fine as well. I then microwave it for 10-15 sec at a time up to 66°C to pasteurize. I then dump the gelatin mixture into the keg, give the keg a good swirl, connect the CO2 and purge. After 2 days or so you will have crystal clear beer, the first two pints will be cloudy, but after that, they will be extremely clear.GuingesRock wrote:Would you say more about how you use the gelatin please. How much and when you put it in, does it need to be mixed with anything, sanitation etc. Have you used any other finings in the keg? Is that the best one in your experience. Thanks
I've only used gelatin, maybe others can chip in with their experience on others such as isinglass. Gelatin works well, and is cheap and easy to use.
I agree with making some beer that non beer people can drink. I do the same. It's better to have a whole lot of happy people, than a lot of people sitting looking very glum and pretending they like your beer.
You don’t mention the ABV, but if you made that beer around 8.5 – 9 %, after a couple of glasses you will be able to move them on easily to the really hoppy stuff. I know that from experience.
I don't have enough experience to comment otherwise on the beer, but I'm sure it's good...and good for beer people too.
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
So you get them drunk and then feed them hoppy beer?GuingesRock wrote:Thanks very much!gm- wrote:I fill the keg with the beer, place it in my keezer for 24 hours or so. After that I take a sanitized measuring cup, add a 2/3 cup of preboiled cooled water and mix in a teaspoon or so of unflavoured gelatin, the bulk barn has it in bulk quite cheap, but knox works fine as well. I then microwave it for 10-15 sec at a time up to 66°C to pasteurize. I then dump the gelatin mixture into the keg, give the keg a good swirl, connect the CO2 and purge. After 2 days or so you will have crystal clear beer, the first two pints will be cloudy, but after that, they will be extremely clear.GuingesRock wrote:Would you say more about how you use the gelatin please. How much and when you put it in, does it need to be mixed with anything, sanitation etc. Have you used any other finings in the keg? Is that the best one in your experience. Thanks
I've only used gelatin, maybe others can chip in with their experience on others such as isinglass. Gelatin works well, and is cheap and easy to use.
I agree with making some beer that non beer people can drink. I do the same. It's better to have a whole lot of happy people, than a lot of people sitting looking very glum and pretending they like your beer.
You don’t mention the ABV, but if you made that beer around 8.5 – 9 %, after a couple of glasses you will be able to move them on easily to the really hoppy stuff. I know that from experience.
I don't have enough experience to comment otherwise on the beer, but I'm sure it's good...and good for beer people too.
I like your style!
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
Pint of it, needs a tad more carbonation, but extremely quaffable beer
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
Hey guys, just curious if this process may be modified to work with bottleling. And if so would you suggest adding the gelatin sollution with the priming sugar.
nothing, enjoying west coast beers while I'm based in northern BC
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
I've used gelatin successfully by adding it to the secondary about three days before bottling. I find it works best if I cold crash at the same time.
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
Does this one go with a 90 minute or 60 minute boil?
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
I'd do a 90min with that much pils
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
Yeah, I've always done 90 min boils on it.
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
I might try this out but the lightest crystal I have is 30
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Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
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"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
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Such hilarious visions clamber
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Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
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Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
I have lots of c10 and carastan 13-17, but it will be a few days before I am home.
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
I likely won't be ready to brew until next week sometime (doing a double batch of pale ale on the weekend). Let me know when you're around and I'll bottle off some recompensemr x wrote:I have lots of c10 and carastan 13-17, but it will be a few days before I am home.
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Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
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Such hilarious visions clamber
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Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
I am drinking ale today." ~ Poe
Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
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Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
I am drinking ale today." ~ Poe
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Sure. Pick your preference and weight.
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
since I'll likely F@ck up the first one I'd probably be safer going with 2#mr x wrote:Sure. Pick your preference and weight.
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Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chamber of my brain -
Quaintest thoughts - queerist fancies
Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
I am drinking ale today." ~ Poe
Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chamber of my brain -
Quaintest thoughts - queerist fancies
Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
I am drinking ale today." ~ Poe
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
C10 or carastan ?
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C-10mr x wrote:C10 or carastan ?
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Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chamber of my brain -
Quaintest thoughts - queerist fancies
Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
I am drinking ale today." ~ Poe
Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chamber of my brain -
Quaintest thoughts - queerist fancies
Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
I am drinking ale today." ~ Poe
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
It appears I didn't know my inventory. No C10.
I put out some carastan 13-17 if you want it. In the plastic honey tub. Your bottles are there too.
I put out some carastan 13-17 if you want it. In the plastic honey tub. Your bottles are there too.
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Re: Good beer for people who like bad beer - Cream Ale
Okay thanks X. I'm in Truro with the family until 3 then I will swing by.
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Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chamber of my brain -
Quaintest thoughts - queerist fancies
Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
I am drinking ale today." ~ Poe
Tap 1: Festa Brew Scotch Ale
Tap 2:
"Fill with mingled cream and amber,
I will drain that glass again.
Such hilarious visions clamber
Through the chamber of my brain -
Quaintest thoughts - queerist fancies
Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
I am drinking ale today." ~ Poe
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