Sankey Electric keggle for trade

[mr x]

I have an electric keggle that I would like to trade for another sankey keg, the all metal Labatt/Keith's/Olands 58l type. It has the ball valve installed and a sight tube, plus it is drilled for an element, and is very well insulated. The fittings aren't welded, and there is a very minor leak somewhere, but it shouldn't take much to tighten that down, I just haven't had the time. The reason I am looking for a new keg is that I picked up a new style of heating element, and want to start from scratch with a new build.

[Jimmy]

What type of power source does this use? 110 or 220?

[mr x]

220. You need that much power to boil 13 gallons.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, that's what I figured. I guess I will stick to propane for now, maybe switch to electric down the road.

[derek]

220. You need that much power to boil 13 gallons.

LOL. That was the one big surprise on my first all-grain brew - it takes a LOT of energy to get that wort to boil! Getting the mash up to 150F was easy (too easy - I had trouble keeping it from getting too hot), but it took me two hours to get a boil (with propane - I definitely need to investigate ways to improve the efficiency).

[mr x]

Yeah, I'm not sure how to easily insulate a propane fired keg. That's one reason I went electric, efficiency. When I ran my old turkey fryer, one thing that made a huge difference was a heat shield around the pot. The hot gases traveling up the space in between the pot and the shield worked well to get the temperature up.

[LiverDance]

X, what kind of keg do you need? A pure keg with nothing done to it? I have one with the rubber on top and bottom but not sure what you are up to? These make great mash tun's and fermenters. Let me know.

[mr x]

I may have a line on a new Labatt's keg, but the rubber chined keg (I think those are Molson's) would work for me too. I may be interested in that one if this other deal falls through. Is the volume stamped on that keg?

[LiverDance]

Yeah the volume is stamped right on it, i don't recall what it is but I know it's there. I can check when i go home at lunch.

[mr x]

Cool, thanks. Here's the elements I picked up on e-bay:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... K:MEWAX:IT

[LiverDance]

Those are nice! How will you end up mounting them?

[mr x]

I am considering a few different setups. Look at this one:

http://www.homebrewchatter.com/board/sh ... oil-kettle

[LiverDance]

I love seeing new setups! I don't think I could do that one though, i'd be too worried about leaks!

[wortly]

I am intrigued. What are you looking at in terms of time to bring a 5 or 10 gallon batch up to boil? Would it be possible to TIG weld that into a keg?

[mr x]

Check out the link on that set-up. I think the guy explains some of the times. I would only need one at 4700W for a keggle though, and another for an HLT. You could weld that (or use a compression fitting), but what I like about it is that it is so easy to remove.

[LiverDance]

X the stamp on the keg shows 50L. Not sure if this is big enough for what your looking for. I don't recall ever seeing a 58L Keg?

[mr x]

All the Labatt's/Keith's/Olands/Brewers Union kegs are 58l. Its a small difference, but it makes a big difference on some of the big beers I brew. Would be ok for a HLT though. I'll keep this in mind. Thanks.

[LiverDance]

You can always fuse together a kettle and a half We took 3 kegs we had and made 2 super keggles I'm not sure the max capacity but they may hold 75 litres each

[mr x]

Yeah, I heard you guys did that. You'll have to post some pics.