Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC
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Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC
Pliny The Elder Clone
23L Batch
8kg 2-Row
0.25kg Wheat Malt
71g Magnum - 90 mins
57g Chinook - 90 mins
31g Simcoe - 45 mins
28g Columbus - 30 mins
64g Cascade - 0 mins
28g Simcoe - 0 mins
92g Columbus - 3 days
50g Cascade - 3 days
49g Simcoe - 3 days
Safale US-05
This beer replaced the previous one that got infected:
Flower Power - Hibiscus Weizen
I tried a Hibiscus Weizen in Belgium which was the inspiration for this beer.
42L Batch
Est. OG: 1.052 SG
Est. FG: 1.012 SG
Est. ABV: 5.3%
Bitterness: 12.9 IBUs
Colour: 2.6 SRM
7kg Pilsner Malt
3kg Wheat Malt
30g Glacier Hops - 60 min
30g Glacier Hops - 10 min
20g Bitter Orange Peel - 5 min
30g Hibiscus - 5 min
2 Packs of M20 (Mangrove Jacks Bavarian Wheat)
Target Mash Temp - 65.5c
Target Fermentation Temp - 16c
23L Batch
8kg 2-Row
0.25kg Wheat Malt
71g Magnum - 90 mins
57g Chinook - 90 mins
31g Simcoe - 45 mins
28g Columbus - 30 mins
64g Cascade - 0 mins
28g Simcoe - 0 mins
92g Columbus - 3 days
50g Cascade - 3 days
49g Simcoe - 3 days
Safale US-05
This beer replaced the previous one that got infected:
Flower Power - Hibiscus Weizen
I tried a Hibiscus Weizen in Belgium which was the inspiration for this beer.
42L Batch
Est. OG: 1.052 SG
Est. FG: 1.012 SG
Est. ABV: 5.3%
Bitterness: 12.9 IBUs
Colour: 2.6 SRM
7kg Pilsner Malt
3kg Wheat Malt
30g Glacier Hops - 60 min
30g Glacier Hops - 10 min
20g Bitter Orange Peel - 5 min
30g Hibiscus - 5 min
2 Packs of M20 (Mangrove Jacks Bavarian Wheat)
Target Mash Temp - 65.5c
Target Fermentation Temp - 16c
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen
Looks awesome, are you kegging it? I've done a few beers with hibiscus, you should get a good deal of colour throwing it in the boil but not as much flavour. For that berry/tart flavour I've made a tea and threw that in at kegging, either way looks like a great beer Dan!
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen
Ah interesting Cam, this is my first recipe with Hibiscus, I've also read that some people will "dry hop" using hibiscus, tasting it on occasion until it has a balanced profile.
Yeah I'm planning on kegging one of the two batches and bottle conditioning the rest for the decembeer exchange
Yeah I'm planning on kegging one of the two batches and bottle conditioning the rest for the decembeer exchange
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen
Cool, careful with dry-hopping with hibiscus as they are flowers could have some wild stuff on em, but post-fermentation there might be enough alcohol to prevent anything from growing. I was burned once when I whirlpooled with some and in a few weeks formed a pretty solid pellice!danlatimer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:42 amAh interesting Cam, this is my first recipe with Hibiscus, I've also read that some people will "dry hop" using hibiscus, tasting it on occasion until it has a balanced profile.
Yeah I'm planning on kegging one of the two batches and bottle conditioning the rest for the decembeer exchange
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Fermenting: Brett Saison 2022, Schwarzbier, APA, Sour Brown,
Coming up: American Wheat (Fruited), Vienna Lager, Dortmunder
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Fermenting: Brett Saison 2022, Schwarzbier, APA, Sour Brown,
Coming up: American Wheat (Fruited), Vienna Lager, Dortmunder
Bottled: Brett Saison 2020, Brett Saison 2021, Baltic Porter
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen
Good point, glad I did a late boil addition, hopefully it turns out well
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC
One one hand, great malt side and that's really important to this recipe. Nice malt character with just a touch of bready wheat. Also, the bitterness is well-controlled considering how much hops are added before the 30 minute mark.
On the other, for all the hops, I'm mostly smelling and tasting the malt. I found this a touch sweet compared to the real deal (although to be fair it's been a while since I've had a Pliny), so I'm wondering whether it might have been a touch underattenuated? I just feel like half a pound of dry hop should have been a little more prominent.
Anyways, hoppy or not, this went down easy for a DIPA on a lazy Sunday. Thanks!
On the other, for all the hops, I'm mostly smelling and tasting the malt. I found this a touch sweet compared to the real deal (although to be fair it's been a while since I've had a Pliny), so I'm wondering whether it might have been a touch underattenuated? I just feel like half a pound of dry hop should have been a little more prominent.
Anyways, hoppy or not, this went down easy for a DIPA on a lazy Sunday. Thanks!
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC
I've been chatting with Liverdance about this one and he says when he opened his he could smell hops immediately, so hopefully that's what most people got. I wouldn't say mine was undercarbed so my best guess for what I tasted, that the cap leaked, doesn't seem likely. Anyways, hopefully you can ignore my post above as an outlier and unlucky bottle. Cheers!
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC
I got a great burst of hops from the get go! was a a great football watching beer but it relation to the original pliny it was darker for sure. Hops were there and tasty as heck. thanks for sharing
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC
Just drinking mine now. It's a really tasty DIPA. Mine had no carbonation problems at all, I'd say perfectly carbed. Tons of hops and some nice malt character. I'm getting a bit of hot alcohols so I'd check into improving the health of your fermentation if you wanted to improve upon this beer. Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I'm going to start adopting a ramp up fermentation schedule from now on
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC
Very good beer! I loved the hop/malt balance, it reminded me somewhat of Vicar's which is one of my faves. Dan and I ended up brewing a slightly lower ABV variant which we've named "Blimy the Baby", I'm excited to have it on tap soon!
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