Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC

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Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC

Post by danlatimer » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:31 pm

Pliny The Elder Clone

23L Batch

8kg 2-Row
0.25kg Wheat Malt

71g Magnum - 90 mins
57g Chinook - 90 mins
31g Simcoe - 45 mins
28g Columbus - 30 mins
64g Cascade - 0 mins
28g Simcoe - 0 mins

92g Columbus - 3 days
50g Cascade - 3 days
49g Simcoe - 3 days

Safale US-05


This beer replaced the previous one that got infected:


Flower Power - Hibiscus Weizen

I tried a Hibiscus Weizen in Belgium which was the inspiration for this beer.

42L Batch

Est. OG: 1.052 SG
Est. FG: 1.012 SG
Est. ABV: 5.3%
Bitterness: 12.9 IBUs
Colour: 2.6 SRM

7kg Pilsner Malt
3kg Wheat Malt

30g Glacier Hops - 60 min
30g Glacier Hops - 10 min
20g Bitter Orange Peel - 5 min
30g Hibiscus - 5 min

2 Packs of M20 (Mangrove Jacks Bavarian Wheat)

Target Mash Temp - 65.5c
Target Fermentation Temp - 16c
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen

Post by wcturnedec » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:37 am

Looks awesome, are you kegging it? I've done a few beers with hibiscus, you should get a good deal of colour throwing it in the boil but not as much flavour. For that berry/tart flavour I've made a tea and threw that in at kegging, either way looks like a great beer Dan!
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen

Post by danlatimer » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:42 am

Ah interesting Cam, this is my first recipe with Hibiscus, I've also read that some people will "dry hop" using hibiscus, tasting it on occasion until it has a balanced profile.

Yeah I'm planning on kegging one of the two batches and bottle conditioning the rest for the decembeer exchange :D

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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen

Post by wcturnedec » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:06 am

danlatimer wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:42 am
Ah interesting Cam, this is my first recipe with Hibiscus, I've also read that some people will "dry hop" using hibiscus, tasting it on occasion until it has a balanced profile.

Yeah I'm planning on kegging one of the two batches and bottle conditioning the rest for the decembeer exchange :D
Cool, careful with dry-hopping with hibiscus as they are flowers could have some wild stuff on em, but post-fermentation there might be enough alcohol to prevent anything from growing. I was burned once when I whirlpooled with some and in a few weeks formed a pretty solid pellice!
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen

Post by danlatimer » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:00 pm

Good point, glad I did a late boil addition, hopefully it turns out well :D

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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Hibiscus Weizen

Post by jacinthebox » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:22 pm

sounds tasty
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC

Post by mumblecrunch » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:03 pm

One one hand, great malt side and that's really important to this recipe. Nice malt character with just a touch of bready wheat. Also, the bitterness is well-controlled considering how much hops are added before the 30 minute mark.

On the other, for all the hops, I'm mostly smelling and tasting the malt. I found this a touch sweet compared to the real deal (although to be fair it's been a while since I've had a Pliny), so I'm wondering whether it might have been a touch underattenuated? I just feel like half a pound of dry hop should have been a little more prominent.

Anyways, hoppy or not, this went down easy for a DIPA on a lazy Sunday. Thanks!

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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC

Post by mumblecrunch » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:07 pm

I've been chatting with Liverdance about this one and he says when he opened his he could smell hops immediately, so hopefully that's what most people got. I wouldn't say mine was undercarbed so my best guess for what I tasted, that the cap leaked, doesn't seem likely. Anyways, hopefully you can ignore my post above as an outlier and unlucky bottle. Cheers!

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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC

Post by LiverDance » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:08 pm

I got a great burst of hops from the get go! was a a great football watching beer but it relation to the original pliny it was darker for sure. Hops were there and tasty as heck. thanks for sharing :cheers3:
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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC

Post by CartoonCod » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:24 pm

Just drinking mine now. It's a really tasty DIPA. Mine had no carbonation problems at all, I'd say perfectly carbed. Tons of hops and some nice malt character. I'm getting a bit of hot alcohols so I'd check into improving the health of your fermentation if you wanted to improve upon this beer. Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC

Post by danlatimer » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:11 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I'm going to start adopting a ramp up fermentation schedule from now on :D

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Re: Decembeer 30, 2018 Recipe Pliny The Elder - Replaced Hibiscus Weizen that didn't pass QC

Post by mdentremont » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:55 pm

Very good beer! I loved the hop/malt balance, it reminded me somewhat of Vicar's which is one of my faves. Dan and I ended up brewing a slightly lower ABV variant which we've named "Blimy the Baby", I'm excited to have it on tap soon!

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