Ace Ventura's Fat Llama Wit
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Ace Ventura's Fat Llama Wit
So I've been reading up on brewing and think I have a general understanding of how to build and execute a recipe, however I want to seek some help and recommendations from the group. I want to start off with something the wife and company will enjoy. Mainly it's coming up to the holiday season, and we will be entertaining a fair amount, and want to serve something that will match their pallet.
*** 2nd Attempt ***
Ace Ventura's Fat Llama Wit
Steeping Grains, 10Liters, 20 mins
.25kg Flaked Oats
1kg Flaked Wheat
Malts (Dry)
1.5kg Wiezen Dry Malt Extract, 60% Wheat, 40% Barley
Malts (Liquid)
2kg Light Liquid Malt extract (30 min on boil)
Hops
1oz Styrian Gold pellets (60min)
1oz Cascade (22min)
1oz Centennial (2 min)
Other
.3oz Coriander (7 min on boil)
.2oz Wet Orange peel (3 min on boil)
Yeast
Safale WB-06
Top up with cold water to 23L, 4 day primary, 7 days secondary, Keg & bottle.
*** Original Recipe ***
The Unforgotten Wit
Steeping Grains, 10Liters, 20 mins
.5kg Flaked Oats
1kg Flaked Wheat
Malts (Dry)
1.5kg Wiezen Dry Malt Extract, 60% Wheat, 40% Barley
Malts (Liquid)
2kg Light Liquid Malt extract (30 min on boil)
Hops
1oz Styrian Gold pellets (60min)
1oz Cascade (22min)
1oz Centennial (2 min)
Other
.2oz Coriander (7 min on boil)
.15oz Orange peel (3 min on boil)
Yeast
Safbrew US-05
Top up with cold water to 23L, 4 day primary, 7 days secondary, Keg & bottle.
*** 2nd Attempt ***
Ace Ventura's Fat Llama Wit
Steeping Grains, 10Liters, 20 mins
.25kg Flaked Oats
1kg Flaked Wheat
Malts (Dry)
1.5kg Wiezen Dry Malt Extract, 60% Wheat, 40% Barley
Malts (Liquid)
2kg Light Liquid Malt extract (30 min on boil)
Hops
1oz Styrian Gold pellets (60min)
1oz Cascade (22min)
1oz Centennial (2 min)
Other
.3oz Coriander (7 min on boil)
.2oz Wet Orange peel (3 min on boil)
Yeast
Safale WB-06
Top up with cold water to 23L, 4 day primary, 7 days secondary, Keg & bottle.
*** Original Recipe ***
The Unforgotten Wit
Steeping Grains, 10Liters, 20 mins
.5kg Flaked Oats
1kg Flaked Wheat
Malts (Dry)
1.5kg Wiezen Dry Malt Extract, 60% Wheat, 40% Barley
Malts (Liquid)
2kg Light Liquid Malt extract (30 min on boil)
Hops
1oz Styrian Gold pellets (60min)
1oz Cascade (22min)
1oz Centennial (2 min)
Other
.2oz Coriander (7 min on boil)
.15oz Orange peel (3 min on boil)
Yeast
Safbrew US-05
Top up with cold water to 23L, 4 day primary, 7 days secondary, Keg & bottle.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
Coriander and cilantro are technically the same but you probably want coriander (the seed) not cilantro the greens.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
Use the coriander from the Indian store on Robie street. Most grocery store coriander is the round morrocan type, and isn't quite as good for making beer.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
I forgot the yeast, I'll be using Safbrew WB-06.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
If you've never used WB-06 before, fermenting below 70 (or lower I'd argue) will highlight clove polys, and above 70 will get you banana esters.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
What would you recommend for a yeast?dean2k wrote:If you've never used WB-06 before, fermenting below 70 (or lower I'd argue) will highlight clove polys, and above 70 will get you banana esters.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
I've only ever used WB-06 for wheat beer because that was the only dry pack of wheat yeast that NG would deliver to me. If you already have the pack, use it and see if you like it. Just be aware of what the ferm temps will get you and tailor accordingly. I made a american-style-ish wheat and tailored to clove and another dark wheat and let the temp come up a bit (still below 70 if I can recall) and got a hint of banana which was great with the darker malts.keithforbes wrote:What would you recommend for a yeast?dean2k wrote:If you've never used WB-06 before, fermenting below 70 (or lower I'd argue) will highlight clove polys, and above 70 will get you banana esters.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
Don't have anything yet. Looking for some input on this. My brew temperatures are all over the place as I can't regulate it. Would I be better off going with an ale yeast on this?dean2k wrote:I've only ever used WB-06 for wheat beer because that was the only dry pack of wheat yeast that NG would deliver to me. If you already have the pack, use it and see if you like it. Just be aware of what the ferm temps will get you and tailor accordingly. I made a american-style-ish wheat and tailored to clove and another dark wheat and let the temp come up a bit (still below 70 if I can recall) and got a hint of banana which was great with the darker malts.keithforbes wrote:What would you recommend for a yeast?dean2k wrote:If you've never used WB-06 before, fermenting below 70 (or lower I'd argue) will highlight clove polys, and above 70 will get you banana esters.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
try a swampcooler ( a big tub with water and frozen water bottles) to maintain temperature, usually only have to swap the bottles twice a day for the first week or so.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
From what the internet is telling me, S-05 or other neutral yeast would be fine and perhaps even more appropriate for an American Wheat. But see if anyone else chimes in like dexter, because my experience is 2 wheat beers. I KNOW NOTHING!
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
I was thinking of using US-05 due to the stability, however didn't know the instabilitys of the WB-06 I was curious. I think the US-05 is where I'll be headed. It's what I'm familiar with anyway from the kits. This being my first beer ourside the kits, I think I'm going to want to go with stability over curiousity.dean2k wrote:From what the internet is telling me, S-05 or other neutral yeast would be fine and perhaps even more appropriate for an American Wheat. But see if anyone else chimes in like dexter, because my experience is 2 wheat beers. I KNOW NOTHING!
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
dean2k wrote:From what the internet is telling me, S-05 or other neutral yeast would be fine and perhaps even more appropriate for an American Wheat. But see if anyone else chimes in like dexter, because my experience is 2 wheat beers. I KNOW NOTHING!
I know nothing!, all I do know is that a leaf and a seed are different and that if you let the temps run away you get odd flavors. Ive made two white beers both from NG and both with forbidden fruit 3463 yeast.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
Thanks for everyone's input. I mucked up the calculator so had to make an adjustment.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
I have a Weizen I made with wb-06, coriander, and orange peel and it turned out great
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
I've worked on this recipe more than any other recipe. Finally feel it's exactly what I like in a wit. Creamy and rich and full.
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910 g. torrefied wheat
500 g. oats
350 g. wheat malt
15g Perle Hops 60 min
5g dry bitter Orange zest
5g Coriander Seed
Wyeast 3068 Weihenstephan Weizen
I wanted banana so I fermented a little warmer than usual. 20C
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910 g. torrefied wheat
500 g. oats
350 g. wheat malt
15g Perle Hops 60 min
5g dry bitter Orange zest
5g Coriander Seed
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I wanted banana so I fermented a little warmer than usual. 20C
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Picking up the stuff Sunday for this one 
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Looking forward to this! Just finished brewing. Smelled great. Will be my first brew that is entirely my own 
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
Trevor, What was the malt bill (also source of malt eg. Briess Belgian, German etc.) and mash schedule please.jtmwhyte wrote:I have a Weizen I made with wb-06, coriander, and orange peel and it turned out great
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Re: White\Wheat Beer - First attempt, recommendations.
Mark,GuingesRock wrote:Trevor, What was the malt bill (also source of malt eg. Briess Belgian, German etc.) and mash schedule please.jtmwhyte wrote:I have a Weizen I made with wb-06, coriander, and orange peel and it turned out great
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This is the link to the Weizen. I'm sure it fermented at 20 deg Celsius. Good mix of Banana and Clove. The Orange didn't come through until later.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer (The Forgetten Wit)
So this is in the keg. Alot of Trub in the bottom so didn't get any bottles. Pulled a sample which was tasty, will be nice to try it in a couple days. It looks promising, time will tell! 
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Re: White\Wheat Beer (The Forgetten Wit)
Well I'm not disappointed with my first batch. Drinkable. Rich, flavorful and creamy. Sharp bitter orange after taste that only last a second then mellows out.
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Re: White\Wheat Beer (The Forgetten Wit)
Excellent!
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Re: White\Wheat Beer (The Forgetten Wit)
This one is under carbed right now as I was too anxious to sample it lol.
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