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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by bluenose » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:44 am

jtmwhyte wrote:I am probably going to finish assembly in the next week or so. I'll boil a batch of water to test boil of and then pull off the main event. I'm thinking Pilsner with a double decoction performed in the cooler to toss on my Vienna Lager yeast cake (did a 3 gallon batch a week ago). Maybe we can collaborate after that on a large batch.
Sounds good. If you don't electrocute yourself, that is :thumbup:
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:53 am

That's an ominous thing to say, lol. If it's all solid wiring and properly grounded and sealed everything should work well
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by bluenose » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:58 am

jtmwhyte wrote:That's an ominous thing to say, lol. If it's all solid wiring and properly grounded and sealed everything should work well
true, more worried about doing it to myself
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:46 pm

Started assembly this evening. I slapped some JB Water Weld inside the box and pressed it into the creases. Its temp rated to 300F and is food grade when dry.
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:26 pm

The box with cover installed (The racing stripe makes it boil faster!)
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by AllanMar » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:31 pm

It really hard to tell from a pic, but you may want to double check those crimps. The crimp should be closer to the ring side, as they are not all metal (the last 1/4 or so is usually just plastic)

It may just be hard to tell from the pic (if so, disregard)

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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:38 pm

AllanMar wrote:It really hard to tell from a pic, but you may want to double check those crimps. The crimp should be closer to the ring side, as they are not all metal (the last 1/4 or so is usually just plastic)

It may just be hard to tell from the pic (if so, disregard)
Thanks Allan,

I did crimp right against the edge, but I agree that the pic is confusing. I taped them up pretty thoroughly.
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Post by mr x » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:28 am

I like to see wire out the tab end, and crimped very close to that end.

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Post by jtmwhyte » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:01 pm

Started assembly of the control box today. I got a basic project enclosure from Central and drilled it out with a step bit.
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:40 pm

Well, it's a tight fit, but it's wired. Does anyone see any reason why I'd electrocute myself by plugging this in? The Element box is water tight and is botled to the kettle.
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by Jayme » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:51 pm

No, but have you heard of the one hand rule? When working on electricity (particularly live circuits) that could be lethal, tuck one hand behind your back and work with the other. If you do get a jolt, it's likely not going to go across your heart that way.


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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:19 pm

Jayme wrote:No, but have you heard of the one hand rule? When working on electricity (particularly live circuits) that could be lethal, tuck one hand behind your back and work with the other. If you do get a jolt, it's likely not going to go across your heart that way.


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Thanks Jayme,

I'm just a touch paranoid of 240v. I'm sure everything is secure, but the thought still crosses my mind that any interaction with that much juice would be unpleasent to say the least.
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by AllanMar » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:27 pm

jtmwhyte wrote:
Thanks Jayme,

I'm just a touch paranoid of 240v. I'm sure everything is secure, but the thought still crosses my mind that any interaction with that much juice would be unpleasent to say the least.
If it makes you feel any better, assuming you don't manage to touch both legs of the 240V at the same time, youll only get a 120V shock...

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Post by bluenose » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:47 pm

Jayme wrote:No, but have you heard of the one hand rule? When working on electricity (particularly live circuits) that could be lethal, tuck one hand behind your back and work with the other. If you do get a jolt, it's likely not going to go across your heart that way.


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I did hear that... Also, if you jump into the air whilst you turn the knob, you won't get electrocuted either :spilly:
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Post by chalmers » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:19 am

Must jump from the same foot as the hand tucked in your pants. Plus the second finger from the left or right (depending on which hand it ISN'T) must be extended through a hole in your boxers.

No wonder it takes so long for guys to get their Red Seal, so many rules to remember!

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Post by bluenose » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:23 am

chalmers wrote:Must jump from the same foot as the hand tucked in your pants. Plus the second finger from the left or right (depending on which hand it ISN'T) must be extended through a hole in your boxers.

No wonder it takes so long for guys to get their Red Seal, so many rules to remember!
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:25 pm

It's alive! (insert maniacal laugh here)
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Post by jtmwhyte » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:23 pm

My testing boil brought the boil off in just under 2 gallons per hour.
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by chalmers » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:40 pm

Nice! Glad it held tight.

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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:12 am

This is going to cut down my brew time considerably. I boiled 7 gallons of cold tap water in just around 23 minutes last night .
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Post by bluenose » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:13 am

jtmwhyte wrote:This is going to cut down my brew time considerably. I boiled 7 gallons of cold tap water in just around 23 minutes last night .
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when did you want to put mine together :P
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by jtmwhyte » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:16 am

bluenose wrote:
jtmwhyte wrote:This is going to cut down my brew time considerably. I boiled 7 gallons of cold tap water in just around 23 minutes last night .
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when did you want to put mine together :P
I'll gladly help you out when you're ready. I've got tons of o-rings as well (I only used one in my setup along with half a tube of JB Water Weld.
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I will drain that glass again.
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Come to life and fade away;
What care I how time advances?
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by bluenose » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:22 am

jtmwhyte wrote:I'll gladly help you out when you're ready. I've got tons of o-rings as well (I only used one in my setup along with half a tube of JB Water Weld.
Sweet. I'd like to brew one more batch before I start cutting holes in the keggle.

I think the only materials I need are the o-rings and the 1" locknut. So, I'll order that from OBK today. :spilly:
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Post by mr x » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:50 am

I might have a 1" locknut at the house. Cut some gasket and you're set for the weekend.
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Re: Electric boil kettle control

Post by bluenose » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:29 am

mr x wrote:I might have a 1" locknut at the house. Cut some gasket and you're set for the weekend.

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