Bottom Drain Electric Sanke Build - "Ivan"

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:12 pm

Not soldered yet. Man was that a PITA to grind out the dimple.

AllanMar · Post by **AllanMar** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:30 pm

jtmwhyte wrote:Not soldered yet. Man was that a PITA to grind out the dimple.

haha, yea indeed. I'm probably going to have a bigger tool made before I attempt any again.

Make sure to use a flashlight or something to make sure there's no large gaps before you attempt to solder (or youll just end up with a mess).

Post by **mr x** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:57 pm

And this is why people should be dimpling in the proper direction.

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AllanMar · Post by **AllanMar** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:00 pm

mr x wrote:And this is why people should be dimpling in the proper direction.

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Have you tried both ways?

Post by **mr x** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:02 pm

Don't need to. That is clearly the wrong method, unless somebody can come up with a specific reason for doing it backwards.

AllanMar · Post by **AllanMar** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:06 pm

I tried both and found this way provided a better result So IMO it's a better way. Clearly I'm wrong though.

The 2" is more difficult then it needs to be because the tool is the wrong size, but even still I'd do it this way again.

Post by **mr x** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:12 pm

You are clearly wrong, and you can flog that crap over at Homebrewcock until hell freezes over for all I care. Unless the ferrule is too short to solder by dimpling in the proper direction, that method is fucked, period. The point of this forum is provide good information, not bullshit, and that's the fucking end of this.

CorneliusAlphonse · Post by **CorneliusAlphonse** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:14 pm

Hm, we've got Allan saying he tried both ways and this way works better, and rob saying he doesn't have to try the other way cause "it's fucked". I agree that one attitude would fit in better at HBT, and it ain't Allan's. Is there some particular reason dimpling inwards works better?

AllanMar · Post by **AllanMar** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:18 pm

mr x wrote:You are clearly wrong, and you can flog that crap over at Homebrewcock until hell freezes over for all I care. Unless the ferrule is too short to solder by dimpling in the proper direction, that method is fucked, period. The point of this forum is provide good information, not bullshit, and that's the fucking end of this.

Wow, had I known I wouldn't have dared disagree with you. Should I PM my opinions to you for approval first? At least I'm saying mine is an opinion, yours appears to be an indisputable fact.

CorneliusAlphonse wrote:Hm, we've got Allan saying he tried both ways and this way works better, and rob saying he doesn't have to try the other way cause "it's fucked". I agree that one attitude would fit in better at HBT, and it ain't Allan's. Is there some particular reason dimpling inwards works better?

As I admitted, dimpling inwards is easier because you can pull the ferrule in to place, so the hole doesn't have to be as precise. With the proper size tool, the hole ends up good and its easy to fit in either direction. I wanted the interior to be as smooth and clean as possible, others may not care about that (with valid reason, hence the IMO). Same thing I told jtmwhyte when I loaned him the tool.

CorneliusAlphonse · Post by **CorneliusAlphonse** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:22 pm

Ah, I misread. See you two at the next aggressive thread!

AllanMar · Post by **AllanMar** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:24 pm

CorneliusAlphonse wrote:Ah, I misread. See you two at the next aggressive thread!

Hopefully not, although I didn't know this would be so controversial either.

GuingesRock · Post by **GuingesRock** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:29 pm

Allan ...you causing trouble again?

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:44 pm

Again this seems like a moot point as I've already dimpled the hole outward. I took a look at Allan's at his place and they seemed great. I'm not in the camp of caring too much so long as the solder holds.

Post by **chalmers** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:47 am

I haven't dimpled either way, but maybe the other way allows for less solder in contact with the wort (I'm assuming the solder sits in the "moat" between the fitting and the dimple, so would be on the inside for this setup, and outside the other way)? I don't have a good reason why we need to be concerned about that, though.

It may be a bit easier the day of soldering, as you can put the keggle on its side, and access from the outside, rather than having to climb in?

But if you've already done the dimpling and assembly, and all is holding well, great!

bluenose · Post by **bluenose** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:57 am

I sense a collaborative brew day in our near future...

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:57 am

Waiting on a shipping invoice from Stilldragon now. If I like what I see that part it on the way

http://www.stilldragon.com/element-guar ... pters.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LiverDance · Post by **LiverDance** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:37 am

jtmwhyte wrote:Waiting on a shipping invoice from Stilldragon now. If I like what I see that part it on the way

http://www.stilldragon.com/element-guar ... pters.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Trevor, are you doing a group buy on these?

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:42 am

LiverDance wrote:
jtmwhyte wrote:Waiting on a shipping invoice from Stilldragon now. If I like what I see that part it on the way

http://www.stilldragon.com/element-guar ... pters.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Trevor, are you doing a group buy on these?

I could if there's enough interest. I bought one this morning, but they calculate shopping later on so I could likely order a few more.

LiverDance · Post by **LiverDance** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:48 am

On second though i'm going to hold off for a bit. Thanks though

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:10 pm

For anyone interested it's $26.50usd for shipping to Nova Scotia

So from Stilldragon $62.50 USD all in for Shipping and the enclosure.

Brewhardware is COMPLETELY sold out but even at that it would be $49.00 + $26.00 Shipping (USD) = $75.00 USD

Brewershardware.com would be $69.00 + $10.95 shipping = $79.95 USD

Just a little help for those looking to order.

homebrewcrew · Post by **homebrewcrew** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:33 pm

I am interested not sure if I want one or two of these kits. Will let you know by tomorrow. Does the shipping drop with more ordered or is it a flat rate for each unit?

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:30 pm

homebrewcrew wrote:I am interested not sure if I want one or two of these kits. Will let you know by tomorrow. Does the shipping drop with more ordered or is it a flat rate for each unit?

Brandon,

I just received word that they've already shipped my order. Sorry about the timing.

homebrewcrew · Post by **homebrewcrew** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:21 pm

No worries. Let me know how it works out

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:49 pm

jtmwhyte · Post by **jtmwhyte** » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:17 am

Just ordered a 6000w camco low watt density element for Ivan. Shipped from Amazon for 31 bucks.