Beer #8 Stout

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Beer #8 Stout

Post by GAM » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:16 pm

40l
7.5kg 2 row
1Kg each Roast barley, flaked oat, chocolate and biscuit
150g El dorado mash
60g Chnook First wort
30g Cascade at 5,2,1 and 0 Min
30 min Mash & boil

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by Halifax_Jeff » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:08 pm

What yeast did you use Sandy?

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by GAM » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:24 pm

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by LiverDance » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:39 pm

Lots of hops going on in this one. Tasty stuff Sandy :cheers3:
"Twenty years ago — a time, by the way, that hops such as Simcoe and Citra were already being developed, but weren’t about to find immediate popularity — there wasn’t a brewer on earth who would have gone to the annual Hop Growers of American convention and said, “I’m going to have a beer that we make 4,000 barrels of, one time a year. It flies off the shelf at damn near $20 a six-pack, and you know what it smells like? It smells like your cat ate your weed and then pissed in the Christmas tree.” - Bell’s Brewery Director of Operations John Mallet on the scent of their popular Hopslam.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by John G » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:33 pm

Nice one Sandy. Cleanly brewed. Lots of hop flavour in there for a stout and it's ok with me. The flavour and finish remind me of a well-pulled espresso shot. Very rich. Thanks for sharing. :cheers2:

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by CartoonCod » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:03 pm

Really enjoyable. Lots of nice roast. There is a bit of an acrid metallic taste going on but that is pretty minor. I'm getting a decent amount of fruity hoppiness. The carbonation is a bit on the low side, but its perfect for the style. It is really hitting the spot tonight!

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by mumblecrunch » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:19 pm

Really solid stout. Nice smooth mouthfeel, plenty of roast character, and a prominent bitterness. I thought it tasted hoppy, but didn't expect to see quite that much hops in this style. Totally works though. And it certainly drinks like a hoppier stout rather than a Black IPA.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by GAM » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:08 pm

Now some have chimed in I will confess to a 30 min mach and boil.

The roast and hops may cover the flaws from the short boil.

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Post by CartoonCod » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:17 pm

Maybe I should start trying a 30 min mash and boil.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by GAM » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:20 pm

I have experimented with it off and on. No tragic beer but I don't have a judges pallet.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by know1 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:35 am

Nice tasty stout. The roast shines strong amid the hop dosing. Seemed a tad thin but maybe that's just my general preference. Is very easy drinking. Thanks Sandy.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by sheppard107 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:31 am

Quite nice, good and roasty. I quite liked it.
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Post by oceanic_brew » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:53 am

Really surprised to see how well that amount and variety of hops worked with the level of roast. This beer is a testament to how unreliable our eyes can be when it comes to flavors.

I think a little more body would make the beer even more enjoyable for me but it doesn’t detract from the flavors melding together well. This is what I look for in a well made beer, flavors that deliver as one congruent package.


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Post by Buccaneer » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:52 am

Soooo much cocoa, which I loved. The top popped with vigour, so I expected it to be super carbonated, but I was pleasantly surprised at the actual level. Definitely lots of roast notes in there. The chocolate absolutely dominated for me and I didn't notice the hops all that much.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by amartin » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:31 pm

I haven’t had the beer yet, I’m still a few days behind. I’ve moved to a 30 minute boil as well for most beers since spring at least, except for a few where I’ve added too much water and needed to boil it down some. I haven’t had any issues.


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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by Brewnoser » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:07 pm

CartoonCod wrote:Maybe I should start trying a 30 min mash and boil.
Remember. Greg was known as “Quick Mash Nash” in Wisconsin. 15-20 mins was all he felt necessary. Longer meant astringency.


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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by Brewnoser » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:10 pm

Judge sheet for this one.
That espresso pull and acrid metallic finish several of you noted was all that kept this from a great score. Still high 30’s. Fix that and it’s plus 40. Image


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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by Halifax_Jeff » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:38 pm

Enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing. Nothing major to add I found it a nice change from a standard stout.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by Woody » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:56 pm

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by GAM » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:22 pm

Help me out with the "acrid metallic finish ", water treatment, less roast ???

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by Woody » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 pm

GAM wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:22 pm
Help me out with the "acrid metallic finish ", water treatment, less roast ???

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Sandman you used allot of dark roast. Easiest way is to add all dark grain the last 5 mins of mash. X)

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by Woody » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 pm

I also use Thomas Fawcett Roasted Barley and chocolate and it makes a huge difference. Not roasted as much and smoother.

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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by wcturnedec » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:11 pm

Woody wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 pm
GAM wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:22 pm
Help me out with the "acrid metallic finish ", water treatment, less roast ???

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Sandman you used allot of dark roast. Easiest way is to add all dark grain the last 5 mins of mash. X)
Ya that would be my suggestion as well or cold steep the dark grains for 24 hours...similar to cold brew coffee.
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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by Brewnoser » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:11 pm

All good ideas. Maybe try boiiing half the roasted grain bill and steeping or late addition for the other half?

A yeast that is less attenuative might also leave some balancing malt.
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Re: Beer #8 Stout

Post by CartoonCod » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:13 pm

I've got a similar metallic character in lighter beers from certain hops before.

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