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Cable Alternatives

Post by TJ Brew » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:30 pm

Hey all,

My fiance and I are looking for alternatives for cable, the two we are currently looking at are Apple TV or Boxee. Anyone have any comments/recommendations/suggestions?

We are tired of paying through the nose for cable to watch reruns.

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Post by RubberToe » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:47 pm

I cancelled my cable last year. Haven't looked back.. there's nothing on and it's a waste of money for me since I don't watch a lot of TV.

I was using an apple tv, jailbroken and running XBMC to play music and video from my network shares.

Last night I got a Sony google tv box and I like it better but I'm a developer and an Android guy. Both devices also run Netflix and you don't have to hack the google tv box to stream media from your network. You can also access the play store.

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Post by derek » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:59 pm

RubberToe wrote:I cancelled my cable last year. Haven't looked back.. there's nothing on and it's a waste of money for me since I don't watch a lot of TV.

I was using an apple tv, jailbroken and running XBMC to play music and video from my network shares.

Last night I got a Sony google tv box and I like it better but I'm a developer and an Android guy. Both devices also run Netflix and you don't have to hack the google tv box to stream media from your network. You can also access the play store.
Is there a difference between Boxee and an AppleTV running XBMC?

Like Rob, I'd prefer the Android option, but I couldn't find one when I was shopping, so I bought Nash's AppleTV and like it (with XBMC - the actual AppleTV part is shit and I boot straight into XBMC...)

I don't think I actually should have to hack the AppleTV to stream media, but for the life of me I haven't been able to make my Linux UPnP or AirPlay implementation talk to Apple's versions. That's OK. as I'm not that interested in streaming - it's directly connected to a NAS where I store the media.
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Re: Cable Alternatives

Post by Graham.C » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:08 pm

I use my PS3 for mostly everything. Netflix and connecting to my media. Plus it's a blurray player.

My girlfriends folks have apple TV, can't say I care for it too much. Kinda slow on the movie rental downloads.
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Post by RubberToe » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:16 pm

I also used a ps3 too and it was pretty good with netflix and streaming from my upnp server. Then it died and I keep neglecting to RMA it.

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Post by erslar00 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:18 pm

(not saying the this is the best option) I bought a WDTV Live and stream downloaded movies and shows from my PC to my TV and also have Netflix. Also, with OTA HDTV antenna I get Global, CTV and CBC... that's my local content. I do have Netflix for my boy.. since he's only 4 it helps having all the kids shows.. but it's only 7.99 a month.. I can handle that. Also, Shaw Direct lets you have 2 vacation stops twice a year free and since I work for an airline I just tell them I'll be out of the country for 6 months of the year and they let me have cable for 6 months of the year (during football season so I can watch NCAA football). You're right though.. paying 60 o 70 a month + is redonkulous!!

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Post by jeffsmith » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:45 pm

We have two Apple TV's here. We're an all Apple household so all of our video is in iTunes on my iMac in my office. Gets streamed throughout the house from there. I've had a number of different setups running throughout the years, XBMC, etc. but this has been by far the easiest for me.

I run Sickbeard, CouchPotato, and SabNZBd on the iMac to grab video for me automatically and have a bunch of scripts that I've built to automatically convert, tag and import into iTunes. Another script notifies me on my phone when a new video has been downloaded and is ready to watch. /nerd

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Post by Jimmy » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:47 pm

jeffsmith wrote:We have two Apple TV's here. We're an all Apple household so all of our video is in iTunes on my iMac in my office. Gets streamed throughout the house from there. I've had a number of different setups running throughout the years, XBMC, etc. but this has been by far the easiest for me.

I run Sickbeard, CouchPotato, and SabNZBd on the iMac to grab video for me automatically and have a bunch of scripts that I've built to automatically convert, tag and import into iTunes. Another script notifies me on my phone when a new video has been downloaded and is ready to watch. /nerd
Want to come set my place up for that? :lol: I've failed miserably at setting up automatic downloads of TV shows and continue to grab them manually on a daily basis.

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Post by RubberToe » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:55 pm

Been meaning to try sickbeard. Right now I grab torrents as I want them and use transmission on my linux server.

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Post by jeffsmith » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:59 pm

RubberToe wrote:Been meaning to try sickbeard. Right now I grab torrents as I want them and use transmission on my linux server.

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I got fed up with Torrents when I was living in Alberta and Shaw throttled your speed when downloading via a torrent. Switched to Usenet only, so much faster.

Sickbeard is an excellent app. I'd be lost without now. Better than a DVR for sure.

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Post by jeffsmith » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:00 pm

Jimmy wrote:Want to come set my place up for that? :lol: I've failed miserably at setting up automatic downloads of TV shows and continue to grab them manually on a daily basis.
:lol:

If you're running a Mac I could likely send you a how-to. I've set it up quite a few times now.

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Post by sleepyjamie » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:18 pm

you can use american DNS and hulu plus which allows decent tv programs.

i havent tried it with hulu but i have with appletv and netflix
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Post by Jimmy » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:46 pm

sleepyjamie wrote:you can use american DNS and hulu plus which allows decent tv programs.

i havent tried it with hulu but i have with appletv and netflix
How do you set up a hulu plus account in Canada? I've already got an American DNS, but when you register for a hulu plus account it only accepts an American billing address.

I've also been a non cable subscriber for close to a year now. For the most part I don't miss it, though I wish I could streamline my acquisition of new episodes for my frequently watched tv series. I currently use Netflix for the older stuff, and documentaries, and I either watch downloaded content via usb plugged into the tv, or stream over the network directly to my tv.

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Post by sleepyjamie » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:21 pm

Jimmy wrote:
sleepyjamie wrote:you can use american DNS and hulu plus which allows decent tv programs.

i havent tried it with hulu but i have with appletv and netflix
How do you set up a hulu plus account in Canada? I've already got an American DNS, but when you register for a hulu plus account it only accepts an American billing address.

I've also been a non cable subscriber for close to a year now. For the most part I don't miss it, though I wish I could streamline my acquisition of new episodes for my frequently watched tv series. I currently use Netflix for the older stuff, and documentaries, and I either watch downloaded content via usb plugged into the tv, or stream over the network directly to my tv.
ive never used hulu plus, only the regular hulu with american DNS. i didnt realize they restrict the billing addy.
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Post by TJ Brew » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:13 am

I keep forgetting how many nerds there are on this site...
I am not THAT computer savvy (e.g. I have not written script to automatically fetch new episodes for me, although that would be pretty awesome).
Jeff, I do run Macs in the house but I don't know what most of the acronyms or apps are that you are talking about are or do.
Sandy, what is OTA? Other than Over-the-air and Ontario Tennis Association (google told me that...) Are we talking bunny ears? Isn't that being phased out?

Thank you for all of you input so far, now I will go to the google to learn about all this new fandangled stuff.

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Post by GAM » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:01 am

Over the Air. It is now a digital signal and you need a "box" Digital/Analog converter.

We have 2 kids 16 & 13 and 1 TV 3 channels and Netflicks. The kids and wife do some streeming but I can't be bothered.

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Post by jeffsmith » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:14 am

TJ Brew wrote:I keep forgetting how many nerds there are on this site...
I am not THAT computer savvy (e.g. I have not written script to automatically fetch new episodes for me, although that would be pretty awesome).
Jeff, I do run Macs in the house but I don't know what most of the acronyms or apps are that you are talking about are or do.
Sandy, what is OTA? Other than Over-the-air and Ontario Tennis Association (google told me that...) Are we talking bunny ears? Isn't that being phased out?

Thank you for all of you input so far, now I will go to the google to learn about all this new fandangled stuff.

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For anyone interested, here's a pretty good guide for setting up Sickbeard, etc.

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Post by TJ Brew » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:20 am

jeffsmith wrote:
TJ Brew wrote:I keep forgetting how many nerds there are on this site...
I am not THAT computer savvy (e.g. I have not written script to automatically fetch new episodes for me, although that would be pretty awesome).
Jeff, I do run Macs in the house but I don't know what most of the acronyms or apps are that you are talking about are or do.
Sandy, what is OTA? Other than Over-the-air and Ontario Tennis Association (google told me that...) Are we talking bunny ears? Isn't that being phased out?

Thank you for all of you input so far, now I will go to the google to learn about all this new fandangled stuff.

Trevor
For anyone interested, here's a pretty good guide for setting up Sickbeard, etc.

http://www.totalhtpc.com/the-complete-g ... eadphones/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's very comprehensive and shows how to set things up on Mac, PC, and Linux.
Excellent, Thank you!
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Post by TJ Brew » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:22 am

GAM wrote:Over the Air. It is now a digital signal and you need a "box" Digital/Analog converter.

We have 2 kids 16 & 13 and 1 TV 3 channels and Netflicks. The kids and wife do some streeming but I can't be bothered.

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Great. Where do you get the "box" from?
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TJ Brew wrote:
GAM wrote:Over the Air. It is now a digital signal and you need a "box" Digital/Analog converter.

We have 2 kids 16 & 13 and 1 TV 3 channels and Netflicks. The kids and wife do some streeming but I can't be bothered.

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Great. Where do you get the "box" from?
A little electronics shop in Burnside. Radio Shack sells them and likly the other big shops.

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Post by TJ Brew » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:37 am

jeffsmith wrote:
For anyone interested, here's a pretty good guide for setting up Sickbeard, etc.

http://www.totalhtpc.com/the-complete-g ... eadphones/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's very comprehensive and shows how to set things up on Mac, PC, and Linux.

This is a great article, very well done! Even I can follow this.
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Post by know1 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:50 am

We cut our cable last month and so far so good. Right now I just have a laptop to dl or stream to the tv and its working out ok. All the information and knowledge in this thread is very inspiring.
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Post by GillettBreweryCnslt » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:01 am

I use OTA (over-the-air) for my 3 basic channels and I bought my conversion box at bestbuy for $50 (I actually have 3 of them). The OTA digital tv is minimum 720p and is awesome, no more snow. I bit-torrent everything else as far as tv and movies are concerned. My daughter is only 17 months so we'll get netflix when she's older, but not yet as she doesn't watch any tv at the moment.

I built myself a hi-gain Grey-Hovermann UHF-VHF antenna after spending a lot of time on this forum: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; There's tons of info about tv in Canada on that site. I used the plans found here: http://www.wuala.com/300ohm/Documents/S ... DF?lang=en" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I had a commercial antenna and it was only picking up about 40% signal at my house - I'm in a forested area and on the wrong side of a large hill that blocks signal from the three broadcast towers that are in Clayton Park. I built this antenna and instantly got 100% signal on all 3 channels even with the antenna in my attic (same spot as the commercial one was). Cost about $80 in parts all found around town.

If you do go the antenna route, let me know, there are a lot of really helpful resources on that forum for building, mounting and aiming the antenna properly to get maximum signal strength all based on your specific location (using the lat and long of your house plus elevation)

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