Brewing Burnout - Help!

[jacinthebox]

in this case i'd say it likely is an issue with the judging. sucks when that happens. i'm guessing they sat there talked about the beer then wrote their feedback ... i wouldn't put too much stock in the red apple characterization.

I also sent this to Montreal...so I'll see if those judges get red apple...If they do I'll have to figure out what's going on. It doesn't really bother my any...I brewed this beer for me...I just messed up on yeast selection. I still like it, but its less of a bo-pils and more of an American lager IMO...still tastes good tho

Plus...hipsters love them some apple beer...I'm may have stumbled on to something lol

[Jayme]

I thought acetaldehyde was green apples though?

It is...red apple is Ethyl Hexanoate

Also commonly confused with acetaldehyde. The reason I went there, is that can often drop out over time. Not the span of a week though. Ethyl hexanoate is a fruity ester though, so if you're getting fruity esters, and they're out of style, I would say your much closer to tasting what the judges are writing down than you think. If they had kept it more vague on the score sheet but saying 'inappropriate fruity esters', would you have agreed? If after everyone at the brewnoser meeting had agreed on it being too fruity, if someone piped up and said 'red apple!', would others have said yeah - that's it! Or would they all have said no way!

Anyway, my take is that the judges are somewhat saying the same thing as you, just in a different way, and you're trying to anaylze the score sheet under the microscope instead of reading between the lines. Does that make sense?

Long story short, sounds like you should try a different yeast next time or enter it in a different category.

[jacinthebox]

I thought acetaldehyde was green apples though?

It is...red apple is Ethyl Hexanoate

Also commonly confused with acetaldehyde. The reason I went there, is that can often drop out over time. Not the span of a week though. Ethyl hexanoate is a fruity ester though, so if you're getting fruity esters, and they're out of style, I would say your much closer to tasting what the judges are writing down than you think. If they had kept it more vague on the score sheet but saying 'inappropriate fruity esters', would you have agreed? If after everyone at the brewnoser meeting had agreed on it being too fruity, if someone piped up and said 'red apple!', would others have said yeah - that's it! Or would they all have said no way!

Anyway, my take is that the judges are somewhat saying the same thing as you, just in a different way, and you're trying to anaylze the score sheet under the microscope instead of reading between the lines. Does that make sense?

Long story short, sounds like you should try a different yeast next time or enter it in a different category.

yeah...fruity is a desired ester in American lager...so when I say it's fruity I mean it's too fruity for this style, not overwhelmingly fruity...the judges said apple juice and Red apple not fruity esters...I know now I picked the wrong yeast...it was my fault due to lack of attention

Like I said...I will wait to see if Montreal picks up on red apple or apple juice...and go from there. I like the beer, so I'm drinking it lol

[jacinthebox]

Keith and Dave just confirmed apple in the lager (bottled)....fuck...I'm sampling the last of the keg now...and no stupid apple...this sucks...oh well she's gone now...infection in the bottles?

There...fixed...changed it to a apple lager...

[jacinthebox]

This makes me want to punch...a small defenseless person

[Keith]

This makes me want to punch...a small defenseless person

It was one of the best ciders the province had to offer. jk. It was only noticable because he told me.

[jacinthebox]

This makes me want to punch...a small defenseless person

It was one of the best ciders the province had to offer. jk. It was only noticable because he told me.

Harsh bro

[Keith]

This makes me want to punch...a small defenseless person

It was one of the best ciders the province had to offer. jk. It was only noticable because he told me.

Harsh bro

Only cause it's a joke and you can handle it.
Brew it again.

[jacinthebox]

Lol...fuck that noise

[Keith]

Lol.

[GuingesRock]

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Wednesday afternoon. My afternoon off. That's when I would normally be brewing. Instead I'm cleaning windows an cleaning the kitchen cupboards. Taking my time and enjoying it. Having a break and a cup of tea as I speak. Looking up, I can see the outside world through the windows now they are clean and the sun is streaming in. There's something odd about this. I don't have to watch temperatures and time like a hawk.